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Should I take this offer or is it shady? Please help!!!!!

Discussion in 'Studio Lounge' started by punkrocker, Mar 5, 2009.

  1. punkrocker

    punkrocker Guest

    Ok so this guy sent me this message on myspace claiming all I have to do is send him a demo of my band with contact info on it and he'll pass it on to some labels. Does this seem shady? Please advise. Here is the conversation (read from bottom to top):

    just send me one and i will make as many copies as i need. send your contact info with it so they can get in touch with you. and what record labels would you like to get signed on with. A&M records, sony music, rhino records, name it and i can probably get it. well get back to me soon.

    ----------------- Original Message -----------------
    From: The Medication (208500452)
    To: Brad
    Date: Mar 5, 2009 10:40 PM
    Subject: RE: business offer


    How many CD's do you need? I'll talk with the other band members.

    ----------------- Original Message -----------------
    From: Brad (197421459)
    To: The Medication
    Date: Mar 5, 2009 6:51 PM
    Subject: RE: business offer



    nothing at all. just don't forget me when you make it big. i mean i don't want any money or anything just remember my name. thats all. i will put your name out and push it for a while. if thats cool with you. hopefully you understand that i can't give out phone numbers. but if you can send me a demo cd i will defintly pass it to the right people. if you are interested send to (he puts his address here). well let me know if you are interested. hope to hear from you soon
    ----------------- Original Message -----------------
    From: The Medication (208500452)
    To: Brad
    Date: Mar 5, 2009 8:20 PM
    Subject: RE: business offer


    how much would it cost for you to put us in touch with your contacts?

    ----------------- Original Message -----------------
    From: Brad (197421459)
    To: The Medication
    Date: Mar 5, 2009 6:13 PM
    Subject: RE: business offer


    its all good. just thought i would offer. if you don't mind though i would still like to put you name out there. i was being completely honest when i said i though you had raw talent and i really think you could go somewhere

    ----------------- Original Message -----------------
    From: The Medication (208500452)
    To: Brad
    Date: Mar 5, 2009 6:08 PM
    Subject: RE: business offer


    yeah were not interested in buying songs. we prefer writing them.

    ----------------- Original Message -----------------
    From: Brad (197421459)
    To: The Medication
    Date: Mar 5, 2009 3:31 PM
    Subject: RE: business offer


    i am not claiming to be anyone famous or anything of that nature. but i am claiming to know some valuable people. all the songs i write and sell all sold with all rights. including copy rights and credit rights. whom ever i sell my music to gets credit for writing it as well. i can send you some samples of my matieral to look at and review but it will not be complete songs just portions of them until we come to some sort of mutual agreement. in other word i will only send you whole songs if you send me something saying that you will not use unless i release it to your band. and that you will not chop up my material and make it something different. and i can assure you that this is not spam of any sort. i am not tryin to make any money off you. i am not trying to sell you any crap. just a shot at making it big.

    ----------------- Original Message -----------------
    From: The Medication (208500452)
    To: Brad
    Date: Mar 5, 2009 5:01 PM
    Subject: RE: business offer


    To make sure that your not spamming us, please provide a reputable place where we can verify your credentials.

    ----------------- Original Message -----------------
    From: Brad (197421459)
    To: The Medication
    Date: Mar 5, 2009 2:46 PM
    Subject: business offer


    i have an offer for your band. i am a song writer i have writen songs for a few major names. and i see something in your group. raw talent. i would like to write a couple of songs for your band and put your name out there. if you are interested please get in touch with me via myspace.
    hope to hear from you soon
     
  2. Guitarfreak

    Guitarfreak Well-Known Member

    If it is possible idk how far away you are, have a meeting in person. You will know if he is legit. I wouldn't just go sending a stranger stuff, especially stuff you intend on making money on. The whole thing seems a bit shady to me.
     
  3. Space

    Space Well-Known Member

    You obviously have your doubts punkrocker, or this exchange would not have raised red flags.

    Trust your instinct on this one. The only place that "success" comes before "work" is in your dictionary.


    Brien
     
  4. BDM

    BDM Active Member

    the person wants to do business with you, but can't give you a phone number or actual credentials (other than meaningless references to 'knowing valuable people' blah blah blah).
    its likely one of three things:
    1) a scam
    2)a flake
    3)a genuine well meaning person who wants to sell you songs and make you famous and rich for the price of 'remembering' his/her name, whose 'valuable' contacts have not seen fit to do the same for him/her (likely because their songs are not that great, or their 'valuable' friends are neither valuable nor friends).

    hmmmmm.
     
  5. Guitarfreak

    Guitarfreak Well-Known Member

    ^Epic Post
     
  6. robcranmer

    robcranmer Guest

    Run Luke...Run!!!...oh I'm sorry ....that was an old Star Wars flashback! Run Punkrocker...run!
     
  7. Greener

    Greener Guest

    _If_ you do send him something, make sure it's copyrighted legally and specify the he cannot make any copies of his own for distribution no matter the purpose. That's the bit that seems shady to me...

    I personally would want to meet this individual to make sure he's not some grifter. The whole thing does seem shady and I personally wouldn't have a bar of it.

    Good luck with whatever you do decide to do, be aware that some people will think you owe them favours even if they don't produce you anything tangible just because they are insane. There is no such thing as a free lunch.
     
  8. rockstardave

    rockstardave Active Member

    i say do it! but make sure you report back here and let us know what happens
     
  9. robcranmer

    robcranmer Guest

    Dude!!!! As my Dear ole' Dad the plumber used to say...."Son if it stinks like sh** ......well you fill in the rest!!! Trust your instincts...they got you here didn't they?
     
  10. MadTiger3000

    MadTiger3000 Active Member

    Trust your instincts, and keep it movin'. If he could do what he claims, he would have references to his accomplishments.
     
  11. natural

    natural Active Member

    If your songs are freely available to be auditioned on Myspace, then he doesn't even need to contact you. He could just send the link to whomever he wants. (if he really wants to help you)
    No one send out demo's anymore. It's all on websites.
     
  12. Greener

    Greener Guest

    This.
     
  13. punkrocker

    punkrocker Guest

    Thanks everyone for all of the replies! Here is what I'm thinking. What if I make a CD but just put on like :30-1:00 clips off the songs instead of the whole things? Would that cover me? Or should I just bag this whole thing?
     
  14. fourone3

    fourone3 Active Member

    I think natural is right. I would assume that if a label heard your MySpace, or similar, and were impressed, that would be enough.

    I would just refer this person to your page.

    I also find it funny that a 'professional' can't use capital letters, where appropriate.
     
  15. Space

    Space Well-Known Member

    a professional what?
     
  16. taxman

    taxman Active Member

    I am a lawyer, although not an entertainment lawyer. You found a flake. Don't send him anything.
     
  17. punkrocker

    punkrocker Guest

    Ok so up until this point I was thinking spam all the way. But now this guy has said that I don't have to send him a CD if I don't want to and he'll just use our myspace link. Do I have anything to lose? Conversation:



    if that is how you would like to do it that is fine with me. i just think if i had a demo it would look better on your part. but how ever you want to do this is fine with me. and if the opportunity was to present itself would you be interested in traveling out of state to play say for example new orleans or memphis possibly las vegas. but yeah how ever you are interested in going about this is up to you.
    ----------------- Original Message -----------------
    Froif that m: The Medication (208500452)
    To: Brad
    Date: Mar 6, 2009 11:28 AM
    Subject: RE: business offer


    Before we do this I have a question. Why can you not just use our myspace link and give that out instead?
     
  18. pr0gr4m

    pr0gr4m Well-Known Member

    Re: Should I take this offer or is it shady? Please help!!!!

    The second sentece is the best.
    He does't say he knows valuable people. He's says that he is 'claiming to know' valuable people. That's rich.
     
  19. jammster

    jammster Active Member

    Space wrote:

    "a professional what?"

    Scam artist!

    There are loads of liars and thieves in the world of music.

    Stop for a moment.Think about where this is leading too.

    If I were you I'd take the compliment and move on with just the band. Don't put any weight into this, ignore it. Save your energy for better days!
    jamm
     
  20. Space

    Space Well-Known Member

    That isn't a professional scam artist. They[real professionals] used to run advertisements in the major music related rags years ago.

    Even the art of scamming is being dumbed down with the Internet!!!!!
     

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