Sm 58's and Hi hat

Discussion in 'Hi-Hats' started by heyman, Mar 10, 2005.

  1. heyman

    heyman Guest

    I am looking at buying some sm 58's to have around my studio.
    Just curious, has anyone had good luck with using them on the Hi hat??

    If not, what other mics would you list as a hi hat goto mic?
  2. WRX07

    WRX07 Guest

    Shure SM81
  3. Davedog

    Davedog Distinguished Member

    Dec 10, 2001
    Pacific NW
    An SM58 is a good mic for live performance vocals and IMHO not that good for micing things in a studio.It will work on certain sources and is bulletproof as far as build quality but it has a very pronounced proximity effect and would not be good at all for hihats.Unless you're looking for a really dark deep sounding hat that will pretty much cover up any other instruments recorded with it.Get SM57's to have around the studio.A Beyer 201 or 422 is my favorite HiHat mic though I rarely record with a mic on the hats. Sometimes I'll put one up as a safety if the song needs a lot but generally the overheads in an X/Y stereo pair will suffice for the hat being where it needs to be .
  4. Groff

    Groff Active Member

    Jul 18, 2004
    No SM58 on HH. Wrong choice.

    Try with condenser: Studio project C4, AKG C1000, AKG C430, AT 3031, AT 4041, Rode NT3, Shure KSM 109 or similar affordable small condensers. Even the Behringer B5 (actually "garbage") is better than SM58.

    Think of pair, for overheads. Davedog is right.
  5. JoeDj

    JoeDj Guest

    I use Neumann KM 185, although before I used to mic Hi-Hat with SM57.
    The Neumann will give more top end.
    Good luck! 8)
  6. Davedog

    Davedog Distinguished Member

    Dec 10, 2001
    Pacific NW
    Ya see how subjective this business is.All great suggestions.I used to use the condensers on the hat...Mostly SM81 with the hyper capsule..Occasionally a KM84,sometimes nothing.Since rock drumming has gone from close micing EVERYTHING to a more 'room sound' I just dont find I need em anymore. Then one day I was screwing around and had our studio drummer over for nothing but testing mics and drum area setups.Had a huge mic locker then.....sigh.....I stuck the Beyer 201 on the hats....and this is a drummer who had three sets of hats!...SUDDENLY....I had CONTROL of the gawddammdest instrument to mic there is.I used to stick the 422 Beyer under the snare...tried that one on the hat....MAGIC....something about the hypercardioid dynamics with less sensativity therefore no spill...Not quite the same in the upper end as a KM Neumann but at the time we were using two purple badged U87's as over heads.....whatt'aya gonna do?!Recently we were in to a friends studio doing drum replacement tracks....Used the Audio Technica 4051 on the hat.....Excellent.
  7. Oddity

    Oddity Guest

    I use a pair of SM81s in a X/Y pattern overhead. These pick up the high-hat just fine. You can also fine tune this a little by pointing the overheads more or less towards which cymbols you want more prominent.

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