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SM57 or SM58?

Discussion in 'Recording' started by Kapt.Krunch, Mar 4, 2009.

  1. Kapt.Krunch

    Kapt.Krunch Well-Known Member

    Recording a band live to stereo in a basement. After putting together all our mics, and mic'ing everything (DI for bass and keys) except for two overheads for drums and two guitar cabs, we are left with a pair of SM57's and a pair of SM58's.

    Which would be the best choice for either...will it make much difference at all...and why? I realize either may not be THE best for overheads, and either is OK for guitar...but that's what we have.

    I think I know the answer, but just wanted to see what more expert folks thought.

    Thanks,

    Kapt.Krunch
     
  2. Guitarfreak

    Guitarfreak Well-Known Member

    I'd say if you HAD to choose either, to go with the 57, because the pop filters on the 58s will affect the way the frequencies transfer to the recording. Either is really ok though as long as you remove the ball end of the 58 since they are allegedly the same capsule.
     
  3. Kapt.Krunch

    Kapt.Krunch Well-Known Member

    Thanks Mr. Freak,

    But...didn't QUITE answer the question. :wink: I assume you mean go with the 57's for OH, and stick the 58's in front of the guitar cabs? Since there is less "pop filter" on the 57, they would be the better bet on OH? A few inches from the grill shouldn't matter much with the 58's ball, but it may affect the overall pickup if 58's were used as OH? I'm assuming the polar pattern is a BIT different with the ball on or off, and from the 57?

    That's kind of what I was thinking. Are you also suggesting removing the ball from the 58's for EITHER app? I'd feel a bit better doing that on a guitar cab, than with some wild drummer's sticks flying all around them, don't you think?

    Thanks,

    Kapt.Krunch
     
  4. Guitarfreak

    Guitarfreak Well-Known Member

    oh I see what you mean, I thought you had the guitars covered and were down to four mics and a drumset. That does change things a bit. But yes I was recommending that you remove the ball on the 58s either way because for these uses they won't be beneficial. I don't have any first hand experience with miking drumsets though, so someone else would probably be more useful. Sorry :$
     
  5. The balls actually alter the pattern. I'd use the 58 as an OH without the ball just so you don't accidently damage the capsule getting it up in your amps grill. They'll sound very similar on both sources, especially with the ball off.

    K
     
  6. Codemonkey

    Codemonkey Well-Known Member

    Drum mic, I don't personally like Recorderman - our drummer has an off-centre snare. It sounds awful.
    I really liked an XY I tried, but my standards are incredibly nonexistent and it still needed work.

    Best tip I can give is to try pointing your overhead mic at the snare regardless of where it's placed - unless you find something objectionable about it.
     
  7. rockstardave

    rockstardave Active Member

    i find that balls prefer a consistent repeating pattern...
     
  8. Guitarfreak

    Guitarfreak Well-Known Member

    Hahaha, that's class man
     
  9. touche.

    K
     

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