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Snare micing ??'s

Discussion in 'Drums' started by mike buzz, Jun 24, 2003.

  1. mike buzz

    mike buzz Guest

    I have been expirimenting with saare track recording , so far I have used a

    AKG C-414 about 1" from the top side polar pattern facing at a 45 deg angle 20db pad , very thin sound and pingy ( this snare is not a very fat sounding snare in the first place ) we try'd different positions but not much help ??

    Microteck Gefell U691 1.5" same postion , 10db pad , 100hz rolloff , much better sound but still a little thin ( added a sm57 to the bottom helped the overall sound ) It still dos not sound like the drum in the room the room sound is much fuller and thicker

    I could try a further distance tight pattern mic over top to get a fuller sound but I am concerned about bleed

    Any suggestions

    Thanks
    Buzz
     
  2. jdier

    jdier Active Member

    Maybe you already tried, but how about a SM57 on it?
     
  3. Rod Gervais

    Rod Gervais Active Member

    HELP NEEDED FROM THE PROS?

    Buzz,

    I have used the SM57 very successfully for recording my snares - i set it roughly 6" to the outside and 3" below the snare - pointed at the snare centre........

    I also add a touch of compression - and the rest is a matter of EQ on the board.

    For me the 57 is the mic of choice.

    You say in the 1st paragraph that the snare is not very fat sounding itself - maybe just a touch of reverb afterwards to fatten it up?

    I have never had to do this - and am not a engineer by any means - but it seems logical to me that this might work -

    Happy Hunting

    Rod
     
  4. mike buzz

    mike buzz Guest

    Thanks guys I'll try the 57 on it , I was trying the other mics because of the sonic qualities of these mics. I'm just really learning what mic are good for what so!!!!!!!!!!

    Later
    Buzz
     
  5. MindMeld

    MindMeld Guest

    try micing the shell instead of the top or bottom.... move it up or down the side of the snare to get more whack or more snare sound.
    Marsh
     
  6. d franko

    d franko Guest

    What about a room mic then? If it sounds good in the room... mic the room?
     
  7. mike buzz

    mike buzz Guest

    The concern with a room mic is bleed !! , I could add a room mic for ambiance fatness and apply FX to the close mic then mix the 2-3 together ( I'll try this next time ) but I think the problem will be to much bleed of the hi-hat , toms and symbals into the snare ?????

    Thanks
    Buzz
     
  8. Rod Gervais

    Rod Gervais Active Member

    You'd end up having to gate it to get the problem solved - just leave it by the snare - try the different suggestions - and remember - you said it wasn't much of a snare regardless - you can not make a silk purse out of a sows ear - make it the best you can - and have your drummer pick up a killer snare.

    Rod
     
  9. sign

    sign Guest

    For those who are happy with the 57, the next step is the Beyer M201.

    Just try!
     
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