software for checking BPM's

Discussion in 'Tracking / Mixing / Editing' started by mysticm, Jul 28, 2006.

  1. mysticm

    mysticm Guest

    I want to check the actually BPM's of some songs and some songs are over 1000+ BPM but I want to know some sounds and songs are so fast, but I really want to know the actually speed of the songs. Some of you might think doesn't really matter why i want to know or why I might want to listen to such fast music, but I want to know is there any software(s) to do this? Free preferably or even pay, but a trial so i can try and see if it's good enough to buy.

  2. pr0gr4m

    pr0gr4m Well-Known Member

    1000 BPM? I seriously doubt it. 60 bpm is 1 beat per second, 120 is 2 beats per second. 600 is 10 beats per second. 1000 beats per second is something like 15 or 16 beats per second. That's four measures of a song in 1 second.

    Now that that's out of the way...

    Do you have any devices that accept tap tempo? If so, you could use that by playing the song and tapping in time to the beat. that will give you a general idea of the bpm of the song.

    If you dont have one of those, do a google search I found a few of them there.
  3. mysticm

    mysticm Guest

    Moby made a song at 1000 BPMs called thousand.
  4. Cucco

    Cucco Distinguished Member

    Sorry, musically speaking, 1000 Beats Per Minute is tragically impossible.

    I don't care if Moby made a song called 1000 and he claims it's a thousand beats per second, the fact is, the tempo is in fact far slower than that and he subdivided the time signature.

    By that logic, Barber's Adagio for Strings could easily be considered 1000 BPM so long as the tim signature were 65536/65536.

    I would suggest a metronome with a tap feature (no studio should be without one anyway.) I have at least 5, the cheapest costing me less than $20.

    Then, I would figure out the REAL tempo of the song and tap it in.

    J. :cool:
  5. mysticm

    mysticm Guest

    there is a genre called extratone and it's a real genre over 1000 BPMs. I know a guy called Mister Joker writes something like that.

    Extratone are a muziekgenre within the hardcore. Extratone are "extreme" variant on Speedcore, of which are the characteristic that it exists only from beats. The number of beats by minute (car and motorcycle tax) lies above 1000. this in a long ruisachtige bass tone existing beats resulted. By means of this characteristic these music type shows also agreements with Noise.

    Speedcore is a form of hardcore techno that is typically identified by its high rate of beats per minute and aggressive themes. Tracks can range from 235 BPM all the way up to 1000 BPM and above (there is some debate around a genre called extratone, in which the music must be 1000 BPM or above and is soaked in noise. Some say it doesn't exist while others feel it surpasses speedcore in intensity). Unlike other styles of aggressive dance music like gabber, the high rate of BPM makes Speedcore less accessible as a danceable genre, although most fans of the genre headbang and mosh to the music.

    check out mister joker's sites he makes total speed $*^t over usually over 600 BPMs, but some songs claim to be 1000+ BPMs

    If you also check out Egnal Ramd's music it's 1000+ BPM
  6. Alécio Costa - Brazil

    Alécio Costa - Brazil Well-Known Member

    Gigital boards like the 01v/01v96 have this function bundled in the EFX section. Just reacll a specific delay patch.
    Korg also has some pretty cheap pocket metronomes/beat detectors as low as U$20.
  7. Alécio Costa - Brazil

    Alécio Costa - Brazil Well-Known Member

    Digital boards like the 01v/01v96 have this function bundled in the efx section.Just pick a specific delay patch and tap it.
    Also, Korg has some pocket metronome/beat detectors as low as U$20.
  8. pr0gr4m

    pr0gr4m Well-Known Member

    Ok then....there is nothing that exists that can detect a beat of 1000 bpm on the music market today and you sure as hell ain't going to be able to tap that.

    The best thing that you could do with that would be to zoom in as much as possible to 1 second of the wave file and then count the beats that you see.

    I found a couple examples of extratone music. It sounds more like real short loops rather than something actually playing at 1000 BPM but they would both probably sound the same...noisy. It really is just noise ain't it? Perhaps structured noise, but it really can't be called music.
  9. Cucco

    Cucco Distinguished Member

    Sorry - I stand by my original statement.

    I have devoted my life (since age 5) to the study of music, including advanced levels of theory, ear training and music history.

    What these people are doing is NOT music at 1000 BPM or greater. Instead, they are still working off of a NORMAL tempo and creating a series of beats, noise, music, whatever at 256th notes or so.

    Ultimately, there is a beat there which all of this fits into and it is NOT 1000 BPM.

    Sorry, I don't care what "Mr. Joker" says.

    FWIW, a good friend of mine and former student of John Cage also firmly agrees with me - no such thing. I've since listened to some of this music and STILL agree. There is obviously a beat there which is far slower than 1000BPM.



    PS -

  10. Groff

    Groff Active Member
  11. mysticm

    mysticm Guest

    which version should I download?
  12. David French

    David French Well-Known Member

    I'd have to agree with Cucco... at 1,000 BPM, your eighth notes have already moved into the audio rate! :shock:
  13. pr0gr4m

    pr0gr4m Well-Known Member

    That thing will not detect anything near 1000 bpm.

    The way a device like a bpm detector works is that it analyzes amplitude, frequency and pattern to determine a BPM. Extratone "music" does not have enough differences in amplitude, frequency or pattern for a program to detect a (theoretical) bpm of 1000.

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