I know I'm dreamin but here goes - JOHHNY K or anyone involved with the making of SOILS REDEFINE or SCARS album in GROOVEMASTER STUDIOS Chicago, IL can you help us? Although we can get many great heavy guitar sounds (which we should be happy with) We are trying to get that particular guitar sound recorded and cannot figure it out. We have recorded the guitars, bass & drums for the intro on track #10 of REDEFINE, trying to figure out whatever it is that we love about that guitar sound (Sevendust guitars have a similar sound), I believe it is the way the mids sound in the mix. Is it all in the mastering? Am I expecting too much from my equipment or can I get in the ballpark? Is it that my mic pre sucks for this type of guitar sound? Are these the wrong mics for this sound? Is this the wrong technique for this sound? Is it a more expensive/pro AD/DA converter? Do I need to spend another million hours with eq/mic placement/amp tweeking? Is this the wrong guitar/pu's/amp/cabinet? Help Me! Dont laugh to hard but below is the closest we have come. Here is what/how we recorded the rhythym tracks to create the mp3's below (which sound great in the mix but are still missing the sound that we love so much about those guitars): FROM Guitar: LP CUSTOM 92 with invador at bridge, pu selector set to bridge with vol full & tone anywhere between 5-10, Ernie Ball Skinny Top/Heavy Bottom, Intonation is for drop C but tuned to REDEFINE Album) TO Amp: Vetta HD (upgraded) with the following settings - amp1 model - Line6 Big Bottom drive - 1:00 bass - 9:00 mid - 12:00 treble - 10-11 presence - 10-11 volume(not master) full gate - Threshold -20db Release 15ms cabinet model - Line6 4x12 master volume - half way up output setup - 4x12, mono system setup - power = full and nothing else - amp2 on standby TO Physical Cabinet: line6 4x12 - door of iso booth was left open and exposing side of the cabinet, distance from wall of iso booth to face of cab apprx 21/2' leaving back of cab less than 6" from opposite wall of iso booth, cab was also resting on top of Auralex GRAMMA INSIDE Home made iso-booth, 4x4x7, 3/8" plywood on outside, 2x4 frame, 3/8" drywall on inside, auralex 2" studio foam checkered on adjacent walls on drywall, one wall has bathroom type door covered completely with studiofoam. TO Mics: 58 & 421 To seperate guitar takes because only 1 mic pre. 421 on top left spkr apprx 1/2" away from grillcloth, centered on spkr verticaly, centered on the edge of inner cone horizontally (I dont know if this is correct terminology) 58 on top right spkr apprx 1" away from grill, absolute center on spkr TO Mic Pre: joemeek VC1Q (Used only for pre, no comp, no eq, no enhance/de-ess) I will be picking up the vintech 1272 soon to test but dont have it yet. TO Compression: RNC 1773, max compression in normal mode (25:1), quickest attack/release and output set to 3:00(from the joemeek send, to rnc left/mono, with high quality trs even though rnc is unbalanced) OUT joemeek VC1Q TO echo mia digital card TO Cubase SX latest version. mp3s with eq on them are using the following cubase track eq, no plugins, nothing else: senn 421 is -21 db @ 100hz, -9 db @ 800hz sm 57 is -12 db @ 100hz, -9 db @ 800hz Monitor/Playback: QSC 1450 pwr amp TO jbl 4208 monitrs (this is done in my friends bedroom so we burn alot of cds to check mix in car stereos and various other stereos/spkrs as well, but the recording is done in iso booth) http://www.webplexus.com/guitars/bmnoeq.mp3 (both mics) http://www.webplexus.com/guitars/bmweq.mp3 (both mics) http://www.webplexus.com/guitars/421noeq.mp3 http://www.webplexus.com/guitars/421weq.mp3 http://www.webplexus.com/guitars/57noeq.mp3 http://www.webplexus.com/guitars/57weq.mp3 If anyone knows anything about how to get this sound recorded than we will show our appreciation by paying you 1 Million Dollars and giving you 672 virgins in the after life, which is substantially more than the muslims promise (well not really but I will send you a finished copy of our demo!) Please no b.s. opinions about other guitar sounds being better, etc. This is not what we are after.