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something so dumb i should be shot

Discussion in 'Recording' started by song4gabriel, Jan 18, 2009.

  1. song4gabriel

    song4gabriel Active Member

    Hey all-

    I feel I must share with some of you something I discovered today in my home studio set up. Since it happened to me, maybe, just maybe I can save someone else from having the cartoon donkey that appeared over my head this afternoon.

    MAKE SURE YOUR DIGITAL TUNERS ARE SET TO 440 HZ!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Here is my dumb ass story if you are interested:

    So, as many of you do as well I'm sure, I have absolute pitch (most of the time). This causes me a lot of frustration because I am never really satisfied with intonation. Keyboards and electrconic instruments are okay. But the equal temperement of guitars, basses and pianos is oftentimes actually more well tempered than even tempered. So over my life as a musican I have learned to adjust and/or accept what I'm hearing to be as good as it will get. One great thing about digital or electronic tuners is that I can use the visual graph to determine when I'm tuned in good enough for the average listener without my handicap (yes it is definitely a handicap)

    So about 2 years ago I picked up a Line6 Pod XT Pro guitar processor and stuck it in my rack. As I went about my days recording I would oftentimes use the tuner in the Pod to tune up my bass or electric guitars while trakcing. Or sometimes I would use the tuner in Guitar Rig. Or sometimes I would use this other plugin tuner. And on it went....

    But things never sounded right. More than every once in a while I would be recording a song and realize that there were intonation problems coming from this instrument or that instrument. In one song it might be the bass, in another maybe my strat, in another maybe 2 different tracks. Sometimes there would be a few in the same mix...Now keep in mind, my ear can percieve very slight pitch variables, but I have overcompensated for this by accepting this fact. But things started to really get ridiculous after a while. ...How could I possibly have so many problems? Was I innsane? Did I bump my head years ago (drunk of course) and ^#$% up the frequencies that my mind's ear hears? WHy is that only sometimes this happened? Did it have something to do with the moon? My medications? My insomnia? A bad haircut?...God?

    And so- there I was this afternoon, tuning my brand new Gibson (just back from the luthier) through my PodXTPro and saying to myself "this sucks, nothing ever sounds right."...and I look at this little box in the tuner LCD that displays: "436HZ"...hmm???......."no way"......."you...gotta...be.....kidding".... "you moron"... and i clicked the little dial 4 notches to....."440HZ"

    2 years.
     
  2. Greener

    Greener Guest

    Dude...

    Nasty.

    With a perfect ear why even tune to a machine?
     
  3. RemyRAD

    RemyRAD Guest

    LMAO, sorry, LOL. You're making me cry.... It's OK. We've all done something like that. What? You never forgot and left the variable speed feature on the analog 24 track? Only to discover this after a tracking session is completed? Oh yes. How about playing the wrong audio opening track for Meet The Press that doesn't match the video opening? You don't want to go there either. Welcome to the mile high club. Would you care for some oxygen?

    Breathing heavily & out of breath from laughing
    Ms. Remy Ann David
     
  4. song4gabriel

    song4gabriel Active Member

    o my God!! hahaha!!!! well I hope it happened to a Republican!!!

    hey maybe we could turn this post into a "SERIOUS GOOF UPS IN THE STUDIO"

    HOW BOUT IT ALL???? SHARE YOUR STORIES!!
     
  5. BDM

    BDM Active Member

    ouch.
    on the bright side:
    1. detuning a guitar slightly when doubling can really fatten up the guitars and add good weirdness.
    2. rock and roll isn't supposed to be in tune.
    3. if SRV doesn't tune to 440...
     
  6. BobRogers

    BobRogers Well-Known Member

    Basically same thing happened to the mando player in our band. Thought he had some problem like a loose neck that made the whole instrument go out. Only lasted about three weeks before I went crazy and checked his tuner. Damned thing was set just like yours - about four cents off.
     
  7. Codemonkey

    Codemonkey Well-Known Member

    I would NEVER be able to hear anything like this.

    Well, yesterday it was, I was late for Church. As in, woken up by a phone call at 11AM. So I ran him and the guy who runs the projector over a quick setup brief.

    At 12:10PM after I turned up, fixed a few things, and ran the system for the remainder of the service, I wandered up to turn off mics, the monitor amp, etc.

    Then I found that the monitor amp had been switched on, but with both channels sensitivity set to -34dB!!
    The drummer was not pleased.

    (Odd how they hadn't been left at -inf).
     

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