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sonic differences between AT4040 and AT4050 at cardioid

Discussion in 'Recording' started by Alécio Costa - Brazil, Mar 30, 2003.

  1. Alécio Costa - Brazil

    Alécio Costa - Brazil Well-Known Member

    hi friends1
    I am a big fan of AT mic line. In fact I have three on here, workin fine since 1996, used for orchestras, horn bands, in almost every day job recording section.
    I want to buy another mic. what are the differences between at4050 at cardioid and the new :p model at4040 that only does cardioid?
    will they function as a couple?
  2. ckevperry

    ckevperry Active Member

    I own two 4040's but haven't touched a 4050 for years....so I'm going by memory here Alecio.

    I believe the 4040 might have a more even response than the 4050 except that the 4040 has top end peak. The 4050 always seemed thin on most voices.

    The 4040's excel....and I do mean EXCEL....on stereo mic'ng situations like choir, overheads and piano. They have a focus and depth that made me sell my km-184's.
  3. Alécio Costa - Brazil

    Alécio Costa - Brazil Well-Known Member

    I use at4050 everyday. In my opinion, they do not sound thin. don´t ya think maybe it is related to the mic pres/vocalist you evaluated?

    how much did ya pay friend?

    and what about 4047, 4035?

    Cedar... any thoughts?

  4. lowdbrent

    lowdbrent Guest

    The 4040 has nickel plated brass diaphram, where the 4050 has a dual vapor deposited gold diaphram. So there will be a difference in tone, and the 4050 is not the thinner of the two.

    They both have about the same location for the HF bump, and the 4040 does go out to 20kHz.

    To my ear, the 4050 is more diverse. I didn't care for the 4040. I do use the 4050, the 4060, the 4047 and the ATM25's.
  5. Alécio Costa - Brazil

    Alécio Costa - Brazil Well-Known Member

    lowd, what were your applications for the 4040, 4047 and 4050?
    which one did better than the other in which instrument/situation?
  6. ckevperry

    ckevperry Active Member

    High spl's the 4050 did seem thinner. Neither one is a favorite on voices for me as they both are too thin.

    I'm just lovin the 4040's for drum overheads and piano. A drummer I have done many records with lately exclaimed "Wow the drums sound amazing," when I had up the 4040's for the first time. We always got good sounds, but this is the first time he stopped and came in the cr to see what was up. We've previously used 4033's, u87's, km184's, oktava's....

    The 4047 is great on kick and some voices. I did use to like the 4050 for airy BGV's where I was gonna end up rolling off low end anyway.
  7. Alécio Costa - Brazil

    Alécio Costa - Brazil Well-Known Member

    kevin, seems the 4040 shall be interesting for acoustic guitar and hats.
    but no serious sibilance on vocals?

    high spl, at4050 sucks a little. trombone and trumpet ya have to place it quite far, if not it will end up sounding worser than a beta 57. but with some room slap it is a breeze

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