hey all jw about your thoughts on where you find the most value of a sonic 'footprint' in other words, 'messing w/ the natural sound'. i feel like so many people talk about the character of pre's but eq seems over looked. i tried a bunch of pres/channel strips tonight (api512c, drawmer 1960, presonus eureka, calrec peq something, studio technology projects something) i'd say the sounds ranged from vintage, to full smooth, to tascam. i found i was drawn to the calrec, but i really really loved how much the eq was effecting the sound. the api was very nice, and i bet when i patch in it eq i'll get similar satisfaction. i'm seeing to keep leaning toward transformer based stuff over tube (which surprised me as a tube amp playing guitarist for years), and the tube stuff i do like seems strangely on the 'cleaner side' w/ just a nice smooth top. anyway to the point, when this project is done i'm looking to add to the arsenal at the the studio, w/ some brent avrils, and manleys, and a bunch of mics (geffel, royer, u47 knock of) coming in, my mic i'm gonna get is the beyer 160 cuz 'they used it on jimmi hendrix'. so since i can't afford tape, or a tape machine, for some color, i'm considering some eq's instead or more pre's. it just seems like people aren't saying much about 'em, it's always pre's and compressors. things like the pultec, or a neve portico, or even more api, or well, i'm gonna try a bunch before i part w/ my green, but are they worth it? i mean i can use them on the way in and back in. besides the trident 65 desk the eq is either built into the pre, or just some rane pe15 (which ain't that bad for the price) just wondering on your thoughts about the value, and usability of eq over other parts of the chain. this is in an either ITB or hybrid type thing where we go back out thru and into. (as far as hybrid goes, i'm still sorting out the details about a master recorder, best methods, but one thing at a time for my mind). also how you use them, and when ya don't. or when you'd prefer compressor or pre color instead, or all. thanks all, i'm looking for a couple 'choice pieces' if i'm gonna pull the trigger i'm gonna go high end, and probably keep it for the rest of my days, so i'm in no hurry. cartec got a killer review in sos, pultec is back, dw fearn has one, jdk audio has some attractive prices, but i'm buying to buy once, and if i sell for it to sell higher than i paid. fortunately (or not) there seems to be alot more pre's and compressors, than eqs to try, so maybe by the time i'm 30 i'll get a couple. i seem to have been leaning on heavy handed or 'has a sound' but i don't mind if it's 'clean', looking towards 'rich, full' even over 'warm', so as long as i can 'hear' what it's doing i'm cool, 'transparent' has it's place, but for now for me, it's in plugins. maybe one day that massive passive or gml will show up, but i want some attitude stuff first. i just can't quite afford expensive subtlety, although if it makes me go 'oh crap' i don't care what adjectives describe it. price range is just whatever it is, if it's the 5k thing that smokes everything else, well it's just gonna take longer. but this is like when i worked 60hrs a week for months to buy my first car, or saved up for my guitar rig and busted ass, i'm gonna enjoy it for far longer than it took to save and pick it out. the amount of pop/rock type stuff i do outweighs the folk blues and jazz, and i have yet to do classical, although i'd love to be involved in a project like that. and to be honest this eq(s) are probably gonna find there way into a channel or two on the live rig for some tone shaping. but mostly just studio. thanks for any thoughts.