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Soundcards?

Discussion in 'Recording' started by Blutone, Jun 29, 2002.

  1. Blutone

    Blutone Guest

    Ok, I have a friend who will be building his system shortly. Any suggestions for a soundcard in that $600-$800 range? I have a SB Audigy Platinum, and after using it for a while, we have come to the conclusion that we need more I/O's. Any input toward a solution would be killer.

    Latrz,
    O
     
  2. phalic

    phalic Guest

    RME my friend, RME.
     
  3. Opus2000

    Opus2000 Well-Known Member

    Phalic...telling someone RME is great but why? M'kay?
    Blutone....what is it you need for ins and outs? How many? Do you need analog and digital? or just analog or just digital?
    Couple of cards may be a good choice here..
    Echoaudio.com with the Mona...4 XLR/1/4" inputs plus an adat optical in..plus Midi and SPDIF as well...
    Delta 1010 or other ones(altho the Delta cards are really brittle on the high end)
    let us know what exactly you need or want from a card
    Opus
     
  4. phalic

    phalic Guest

    Opus you r correct sir,I was just pointing him,or her in a direction,I was in a hurry this morning .But yes Blue some more details on what you r trying to achieve would most helpful.

    P
     
  5. Blutone

    Blutone Guest

    My friend and I mostly need the extra Ins. We'll be recording mostly analog jam sessions(guitar, bass, 3-4 vocals, maybe throw a couple mics at the drums...LOL). I do plan to get a midi controller for my guitar. So, I will need some midi hook-ups. I don't know the first thing about SPDIF(even though my Audigy has them).

    I went to the MOTU site but they're a little pricey for my our budget right now. I've heard a lot of poeple say good things about MOTU and for that price, even if it sucked, I'd still say I loved it...LOL

    Our projects consist of mostly analog tracks, but we don't want to limit ourselves. Does this help give you a better idea of what I need? My other friend(the one who built my rig) knows a lot about gaming systems, but not a lot about DAW systems. Being so new to DAW recording, I'm learning that the Audigy wasn't my best choice. That's why I'm asking you guys. Thanks for the help.

    Latrz,
    O
     
  6. ChrisStuckey

    ChrisStuckey Guest

    This may be heresy in this forum but you might try an outboard mixer... I use a mackie 1402vlz, an excellent mixer for the price w/ high quality pre's, and only need one input to the computer. Additionally, it gives much greater control over the sound being input as well, especially if you have outboard processors.
     
  7. Blutone

    Blutone Guest

    It's a rackmountable preamp to boost the signal. I'll need this 'cause my soundcard won't amp my mic loud enough to be a good quality recording.

    Something like this.
    http://www.alesis.com/products/mixers/studio12r/index.html
     
  8. thedug

    thedug Guest

    I am generally not a fan of alesis stuff. For that price range check out behringer and mackie before you decide what to get. You definately need mic preamps cuz the sound card inputs are line level.

    The moto stuff has preamps built in. But only go with that if you have a mac.

    I think the ardvarck stuff might have mic pres too.

    d./
     
  9. Blutone

    Blutone Guest

    I'm not really opposed to the idea of an outboard, but that won't necessarily fix me up. If I had a 48 channel outboard, my soundcard(SB Audigy Platinum) still only has one input to record from. I want to be able to record each input to individual tracks. I could use an outboard on the drums becuase, obviously, I'd want those on the same track anyway. Basically, the Audigy limits me to recording one track at a time. :mad: I hate limitations.

    Pounding out a track at a time is O.K. for studio work. But, I got a feelin' it would mess a live jam all to hell....LOL.

    Latrz,
    O
     
  10. Blutone

    Blutone Guest

    Seein' how it got brought up, I'm thinking about an Alesis rack for my pre. I've had good experiences with Alesis and they are affordable. I want to take my music to another level. Would it be cool to go with Alesis or should I consisder other products? Some opinions, please... :D
     
  11. thedug

    thedug Guest

    alesis rack?
     
  12. Blutone

    Blutone Guest

    Thanks. Like I said way up there somewhere, we're a little ways off from building this system. So, I will be able to check out all these names that get thrown out there for me. That's what I'm looking for though, "OPTIONS" :D

    Thanks guys.

    Latrz,
    O
     
  13. Blutone

    Blutone Guest

    Oh, by the way, that link ain't the rack I want. I want to stay around that $600-$800 range. dug, you mentioned some had pre's built in. That would be sweet. I wish I had 2 grand. I'd buy that MOTU 24i right now. No, I mean it...I really would...LOL
     
  14. Opus2000

    Opus2000 Well-Known Member

    Well, if you got the Motu 24i you still need an external Mic pre..the 24i is analog ins via 1/4"..feeding a mic into it wouldn't give you decent levels...I use a 1402 as my external mixer/mic pre(using direct outs not going through the mackie circuitry) and it's a great alternative...plus I can feed my multiple outs from my card to it as well..
    I would stay away from Alesis to be honest..not that great of sounding gear. Plus they tend to break more often.
    Opus
     
  15. Blutone

    Blutone Guest

    Thanks guys.

    Latrz,
    O
     
  16. Blutone

    Blutone Guest

    Hey I'm a full fledged member now.
    WOOOOOHOOOOO!!!!!!

    It's gonna be a while before we build the system. So, it looks to me like I've got a lot of leg work to do. I haven't used any kind of pre in years(including Alesis). Thanks for the advice. :D
     
  17. Opus2000

    Opus2000 Well-Known Member

    lol! Congrats! Shall we have a world wide raise of the ol beer glass celebration! :D
     
  18. thedug

    thedug Guest

    A) How is it not going through the mackie circuitry?

    B) You are damn straight. :D
     
  19. Opus2000

    Opus2000 Well-Known Member

    When you patch into the insert point..first click in...you take the signal "before" it gets to to the EQ or fader...you are taking the signal directly after the pre amp...thus the cleanest signal on the board...
    Opus :D
     
  20. thedug

    thedug Guest

    I guess my point was that a mackie preamp is mackie curcuitry. ;)

    Also, not to mislead other readers, the direct out has to be prefader for what you say to be true. For instance this direct outs on my soundcraft are switchable, pre/post.

    d./
     
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