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Soundcraft Spirit M12 experiences

Discussion in 'Pro Audio Equipment' started by mdb, Feb 1, 2011.

  1. mdb

    mdb Active Member

    Anybody have experience with the Soundcraft Spirit M12 mixer? It has direct output that can be made post-fader so I can use my existing A/D D/A converter and use it for its mic preamps. Are the preamps any good? What do they compare to?
  2. Boswell

    Boswell Moderator Distinguished Member

    The Spirit series is a value-engineered console that performs well for its price. The pre-amps are not exciting, but give good results for vocals and instruments. Getting a drum kit to sound good through this level of unit is more of a problem, but keep the gain trims low on the drum channels and make up the levels digitally, and you should get acceptable results.

    It's difficult to compare the pre-amps in a value-line mixer with those in similar-priced audio interfaces, but the Spirits I have used do better than most of the low-end pre-amps or interfaces around.
  3. mdb

    mdb Active Member

    Thanks for the reply. I won't entertain the thought of buying one then. I'd probably be better with an A&H console with direct outputs like the Zed420 or the live/recording console Zed R16. I'm looking around and trying to figure out what the best mixer I can buy around $2000 or less would be. I want good preamps and lots of them. The Zed R16 A/D D/A converters are probably better than my Motu 2408 mk2 so it interests me, but if I'm better off getting something else and plugging direct into the Motu I want to do that. The Motu only has 8 inputs, but I want a 16 channel board for future expansion. For recording drums I have a Roland TD-9KX, but may get a TD-20 some day so I have the individual outputs (hence the future expansion capability of a 16 channel board).
  4. Boswell

    Boswell Moderator Distinguished Member

    It didn't seem from your original post that you were in this league. The A+H Zed-R16 is at least a couple of notches up from the Spirit you mentioned. From my experience, the R16 pre-amps and built-in A-D converters are superior to those in the MOTU 2408, and give even quite expensive digitizing pre-amps a run for their money.

    I see R16s being advertised for around USD2000 in N America, and if the specification fits your bill (e.g. a hard limit of 16 channels), I would save up for one if you can't stretch there immediately. I also saw you responded to the guy in Baltimore MD who was advertising an R16. His price is a good one if shipping and duty do not inflate it too much for you, but I would try the agents in Canada first to get an idea of the new price there.

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