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Sounded OK in the car

Discussion in 'Recording' started by 2db, Nov 21, 2008.

  1. 2db

    2db Guest

    How do you get your mix and levels to work on small speakers.

    When I mixed this pictular song, levels sound ok in the car but are lacking when put up on myspace or are dumbed down to mp3.

    I understand the loss with mp3 but other engineers seem to still get a reasonably good sound even on mp3 within small computer speakers.

    If you would please take a listen and see maybe I am expecting to much from the musicians as well. Can't pin point my problem.
    http://www.myspace.com/abbeyvilleroad
    Thanks for your insight,


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  2. Space

    Space Well-Known Member

    Your right, it is weak in the rhythm section...sort of. It is overpowered by the bass guitar.

    Typical to take the bass guitar and the drums and get those matched up in level overall. You could bring all the percussive instruments around that, then the rhythm guitar.

    Establish the full instrumentation first, get that to sound balanced. Then have a crack at the vocals.

    Right now it's all over the place.
     
  3. JoeH

    JoeH Well-Known Member

    Very very bright sound, almost too much; crispy & thin. (Good vocal sound, though. Nice tune, too.)

    Can't hear any low end or bass on my laptop speakers (which is where you want it to sound better for MP3s and such, yes?)

    I'd look for more mids & lows in the mix, go for less top end overall, and see what you come up with. Keep the vocal in mind though, I'd keep that and fix everything around it.
     
  4. antoniosolo

    antoniosolo Guest

    I agree SPACE, rhythm section needs to come up and guitars brought up a bit as well, like a whole in the middle. Sounds pretty good on Imac G5 built-in speakers and those are very tiny.....That is a nice song.....
     
  5. AllAboutTone

    AllAboutTone Active Member

    mp3 vocals are wayy loud.
     
  6. Space

    Space Well-Known Member

    Those mp3 vocals are THE hardest to level!!!
     
  7. Cucco

    Cucco Distinguished Member

    No way Space...don't you know, MP3 is a compression format - therefore, it compresses (levels) all of that for you...
    :wink:

    Seriously though, ditch the idea of using the car as a frame of reference. I can't listen to the clip at the moment, but I trust others' judgement here. There is absolutely no substitute for good monitors in a good room. Everytime I make an upgrade to one or both of these, I go back and remix my "favorite" mixes and get them sounding so much better. Don't just learn to hear music on your monitoring chain but learn how to determine its weaknesses.

    Cheers-
    J
     
  8. jammster

    jammster Active Member

    Cucco has got it! I made the upgrade to better monitors after my friend came to my house and pointed out how lame my speakers were. As the saying goes, "You've got to start somewhere."

    2db,
    I really like the song. I have the same problem mixing my tunes.

    http://www.myspace.com/bretnorman

    I know I have some work to do to learn how to mix better too.

    After reading a previous post someone had mentioned about mastering with ozone 3 I was interested in learning more about it.
    I found their free 10 day trial of izotope's ozone 3. looks like some seriously nice software for mastering. I am waiting to install till I have time to really work with it and see what I can get this thing to do.

    Check it out here:

    http://www.izotope.com/products/audio/ozone/download.asp

    Best wishes 2u
    Bret
     
  9. BluepryntEnt

    BluepryntEnt Guest

    i know what you mean, myspace does that to my songs too, but when i put them on stereofame.com they sound original, i think its myspace man, try a different site
     
  10. Sethiroth

    Sethiroth Guest

    Does Ozone 3 work with Logic pro 8? It doesn't mention that DAW on its site.
     
  11. 2db

    2db Guest

    Thanks guys, I bought some small external computer speakers some mid size home speakers and then full size monitors.

    I look forward to using your suggestions and doing a remix.

    -jim
     

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