Special Effects - "How did they do that?"

Discussion in 'Mixing & Editing' started by audiokid, Sep 6, 2002.

  1. audiokid

    audiokid Chris Staff Resource Member

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    I thought this might be an interesting idea.

    What if we did a workshop on a current song that's on the hit list, "Special Effects, Making Songs - How did they do that?". We could do one style a month from Country to Hip Hop. It would be interesting to talk about how and what they did to get that sound, effect, arrangement etc. of each song.


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  2. audiokid

    audiokid Chris Staff Resource Member

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    I thought this would get more attention lol, oh well, it interests me so I'll start on Chers' last big hit. "Do you believe" I forget the name but you will know the song I'm sure. Even though the song was boiled to death the production was IMO pretty excellent.

    I have since used this effect and I would like to share the song if I ever figure out how to upload my tunes.

    The effect they used (that caught my attention) I'm guessing was the Virus? Used with taste I think it really put a nice vibe to a phase. Great for dance and excitement.
     
  3. sturgis58

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    I thought the effect used on Cher's voice was a Vocorder (or a plug-in emulating a Vocorder). N'est pas?
     
  4. 20db.com

    20db.com Guest

    Sturgis, interesting you mentioned that song because I disliked that song when I first heard it. It was so out of place such an obvious effect that just didn't make sense to me.
     
  5. volodia

    volodia Guest

    Actually the producers of the song gave an interview to a musical magazine (can't remember which one ) in which they explained that they used the "digitech talker" pedal .I think you can play midi notes for the pitch.this effect can be obtained by using autotune with the fastest attack and mode "relaxed" (all notes trigger the effect).
     
  6. Jeff Damon

    Jeff Damon Guest

    I think this is an awesome idea.
     
  7. mrbeecroft

    mrbeecroft Guest

    I agree, this is an awesome idea.
    Speaking of hip-hop, one effect that I really liked was something I heard on a Snoop Doggy Dog album. I don't listen to alot of hip hop so I'm not sure which album/song it was, but it was a really spooky de-tuned modulated type vocal effect. I'm sure this one isn't brain surgery and that those who work with hip hop would be all too familiar with this. Just something that caught my attention a while ago.
    I can't say im a big fan of the 'Cher' effect either, and SO many people are using it? Maybe it's just me.

    Tom
     
  8. audiokid

    audiokid Chris Staff Resource Member

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    Glad everyone is liking this idea. I think we should se if Waldo from nowhereradio.com can setup something similar that's happening in the Critique area, streaming our tracks to make upload downloads faster. Any other ideas?
     
  9. audiokid

    audiokid Chris Staff Resource Member

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    Cool to learn other ways of doing this. The Virus plugin rocks IMO but using a foot pedal to sweep is a great feature I wish it had. It's been a year now so I can't quite remember what I did exactly but I believe in PT, you just import the Virus on a track, set the vocordor preset and start bending etc. I love the effect I got.
     
  10. eclinton

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    I have gotten a similar effect to the Cher thing with the Auto-tune in graphic mode.

    Now I know I can do it, so I don't have to do it anymore.

    peace, the dog
     
  11. audiokid

    audiokid Chris Staff Resource Member

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    This might work. We post sound bits of different effects on songs and then talk about how or what they used. I'm going to talk to W.
     
  12. sign

    sign Guest

    The Cher thing was done by auto tuning.
    The guy who actually did it said it in an interview/documentary on TV :eek:
     
  13. alex napack

    alex napack Guest

    Hello,
    From a cubase.net thread of great length, it seems that, :roll: It was auto-tune, not a digitech "talker"( priced @ $150). The Producers Obv. wanted to have a joke on S-O-S readers. It would be like saying that Dave Navarro uses a Peavey combo to get his sound.
     
  14. eclinton

    eclinton Guest

    I'm very thankful for Peavey products, my good man. I used to repair equipment on the side, and if it weren't for Peavey gear, I would have been idle most of the time.

    This Navarro guy, is he, like, real good or something?

    peace, the dog
     
  15. osmuir

    osmuir Guest

    peavy should have this as a tag line: "when you don't want to get yr gear stolen after the show"

    great trick i just used on a track [kind of wrong on this string, but neet]: i had a guitar super distorted doing "whole note" duration chords, two tracks. took one and put it through a danelectro tremelo on "hard" [turns signal on and off], gave myself 8th notes, mixed that back in.

    saved my ass. god bless gtr pedals.

    --0
     
  16. Heezzi

    Heezzi Guest

    http://zoneman.virtualave.net/1.mpg

    How do you get this radio sound like this?
     
  17. eclinton

    eclinton Guest

    iZotope Vinyl is good for the funky old record player sound, and it's free, from (i believe) izotope.com.

    peace, the dog
     
  18. pandamonkey

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    Hey, I don't own Vocal Align or a Virus, but I do have the Orange Vocoder and the GRM Tools plugin package with the great stereo comb filter (if you're very careful with it!). I haven't quite hit the classic "Cher" sound on my vocals but have created good vocoded voices using the combo none the less. Just my 2 cents.
    Regards
     
  19. Kurt Foster

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    :D Very funny but not true.... I was loading out of a Country gig in San Jose 15 years ago (I'm too old!) and I turned my back for just a minute. When I returned my wife's Peavey bass head had been stolen....lousy hillbillies, they'll steal anything........Fats
     
  20. e-cue

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    The "AM RADIO" preset on the Q10 plug in with a Faichild post EQ is a very good start. I believe Tony Maserati mixed that one, and is known to rock an SSL (in this case, probably using the HPF, and the LPF pre compression).
     

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