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Stand-alone DAW to Computer - Make any sense?

Discussion in 'Recording' started by Deltamark, Jan 14, 2009.

  1. Deltamark

    Deltamark Active Member

    Greetings all,

    Just joined because I thought I could get some good advice on a recording setup I'm contemplating. I have a stand-alone Yamaha AW2816 Digital Audio Workstation which is OK, but I don't care for the mixdown and CD Burn process. I was thinking about getting an audio interface for my G4 Mac Mini and using the Yamaha to record the tracks, then mixdown to the computer.

    In the past, I've used Sound Forge on a Windows computer to mix down into and I was pretty comfortable with that. Now I'm considering an Mbox 2 Mini or even an Mbox 2 with Pro Tools LE for this purpose.

    Does it make any sense to go this route? Or is it overkill or just a bad idea? I'm thinking that if I go the Pro Tools route, I might eventually transition entirely to that method. I really don't want to go too deep into engineering right now, as I'd like to focus on home-producing a CD that I could self-publish on the internet and possibly run a small number of CD's.

    I'd appreciate any guidance.

  2. pr0gr4m

    pr0gr4m Well-Known Member

    Do you want to mixdown into the computer or transfer all of the recorded tracks into the computer and then mix them down on the computer?

    I think you would like mixing in the computer a lot more. You have more options, more control, more everything.

    According to the specs, you can import and export the wav files via SCSI. So, you could record into the yamaha, then transfer the recorded files over to the computer via SCSI and then load them into your DAW, whatever you choose and mix it all down.

    I'm guessing your Mac doesn't have SCSI but you may be able to use some sort of SCSI-to-USB or Firewire adapter/cable.

    What you don't really want to do is record everything into the Yamaha, then mix down or transfer the recorded material through another interface (like the mbox) into the computer. It would work, but you are adding additional conversions and noise to the process when you don't really need to.
  3. song4gabriel

    song4gabriel Active Member

  4. Deltamark

    Deltamark Active Member

    Thank you pr0gr4m and song4gabriel. You've already made me think about this in a new way. I was considering recording everything in the Yamaha, then mixing down through an mbox or something, but it sounds like I should rethink that.

    If I do shelve the Yamaha, guess I should try to go for a better audio interface with more inputs and preamps. Not sure how well I can do in the $400 ballpark though.

    Thanks for the input!
  5. RemyRAD

    RemyRAD Guest

    Just know with a Digidesign M-Box 2, it comes with its own pair of microphone preamps and you can feed an auxiliary SPDIF 2 track Bitstream, in it the same time for a total of 4 tracks of record simultaneously. A good reason to purchase broken DAT machines for peanuts. It gives you a second analog to digital & digital to analog converter. And you get ProTools LE.

    That's the way I do it
    Ms. Remy Ann David
  6. Deltamark

    Deltamark Active Member

    Thanks for the information and ideas on the SPDIF 2 and broken DAT machines, RemyRAD!. Great ideas.


  7. song4gabriel

    song4gabriel Active Member

    also-craigslist ads are very flush with last years models of interfaces. any search through "musical instruments" should result in a few of these. if you can save up another couple hundred bucks you can pick up a good firewire interface which (depending on the model) may have up to 8 preamps.

    some to check out:
    digi002 (4 preamps i thknk)
    digi001 (2 preamps- a steal at about 100-120 bucks)
    macki onyx (4 preamps)
  8. Boswell

    Boswell Moderator Distinguished Member

    DAT machines did not have S/PDIF outputs, either optical or coax.

    If you went for a Digi00x interface (they have an optical ADAT lightpipe port), you could use an old DAT machine as an additional 8-channel 16 or 20-bit A-D and D-A converter.
  9. TheJackAttack

    TheJackAttack Distinguished Member

    Incorrect. I have a DAT machine sitting in my storage that has both S/PDIF coax and AES/EBU. I would say it is safe to assume most professional level DAT machines had at least one of these.
  10. Boswell

    Boswell Moderator Distinguished Member

    I stand corrected. It was late and I misread ADAT for DAT.

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