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Discussion in 'Recording' started by CaseyMan, Jan 20, 2013.

  1. CaseyMan

    CaseyMan Member

    So I just converted over the Mac for my recording needs and I've never had this issue before:

    My signal chain is Guitar -> Audio Box USB -> Logic 9.

    I don't typically record guitars direct but I noticed this immediately after setting everything up and it's driving me nuts. If I apply a amp sim or effect within Logic im hearing both the processed audio and the direct line in over it and I cannot figure out how to make the direct line audio go away. When I play back recordings It's just the processed audio but this is still annoying as all hell.

    I've tried everything that I can think of just coming from windows but.. meh, I'm out of ideas.
     
  2. apstrong

    apstrong Active Member

    Have you tried turning the knob on the front, the one labelled "Mixer" that has "Inputs" on one end of the range and "Playback" at the other end?
     
  3. Chief Engineer

    Chief Engineer Active Member

    Most definitely a direct monitoring option somewhere. What apstrong said makes total sense and would be the first thing id look at.
    Any mixers you have with your interface or any outboard gear at all. Is there a direct monitorin option selected inside your DAW. Its all really just a guess from here.
    Good Luck.
     
  4. DonnyThompson

    DonnyThompson Distinguished Member

    Just to clarify....

    You're talking about this happening while tracking, right? It's not happening during playback/mixing, correct?

    If it's tracking only, then the advice already given is spot on.

    If it's occurring during playback then that's another issue, and likely a setting within your amp sim.
     
  5. RemyRAD

    RemyRAD Well-Known Member

    There are two versions of the Pre-Sonus Audio Box USB. The original is USB 1.1. The newest release and an option, is the USB 2.0 Audio Box. The difference between these two units is in how they operate during the recording process. The USB 1.1 unit will only let you hear whatever is at the input coming out that way. Whereas the USB 2.0 version (costing $100 more US over the USB 1.1 version) allows for monitoring of effects and plug-ins, in real time. And where, you have to adjust your mix control to only hear the affected version and not the input source directly. So it actually gives you that option to monitor the input or to monitor with the effects or both depending upon where you are source-Play back control is set. So it sounds like you may very well have the USB 2.0 version? This predicament you are experiencing is not unlike that of the days of analog tape recording. Plenty of folks wanted to hear the compression and the reverb or any other effects during their tracking and/or overdub sessions. So setting up for their headphone monitoring, frequently required going through all of these compressor/limiter's, EQ and reverb and such, that you weren't recording. It was only for monitoring purposes to get the best from the performer. And so, we wouldn't send them their direct signal, directly. This would frequently requires some fancy patching and other corrective measures in the monitor mixer for their headphone mix and for playback after the take.

    Just tweak the knob and you'll be fine.
    Mx. Remy Ann David
     
  6. DonnyThompson

    DonnyThompson Distinguished Member

    I've never worked with Logic, I'm a Sonar guy...and here's what I can tell you..

    There is a channel/track function in Sonar called "input echo", and when engaged, it allows me to hear the processed signal on the that track.... so, if I were using, say, Amplitube, I would engage this input echo function in order to hear the processed amp sim signal. You would probably still need to adjust your mix function on the audio device, but this might be the problem you are facing in regard to hearing the direct unaffected signal.

    Again, I don't know about Logic... but you might want to look for a similar function.

    Just an idea...

    -d.
     

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