Regarding Vocals, but also pertaining to other instruments. I was reading the book Total Recording, by Dave Moulton, and he speaks of sweet'ning the phantom image using delay lines.(Center/Lead vocal with a floating image(so to speak)). As well as panning, using delay, instead of the pan function. He didn't go into how to "Sweet'n the phantom image" too much. Did have a chart on what frequencies support the phantom image. Gave 1 example of routing, but not too much info. Here is a link that has some of the info from the book. http://www.moultonlabs.com/more/principles_of_multitrack_mixing_the_phantom_image/ Anyone care to devulge some info on these matters/techniques, from your own experience. Also really interested in using delay for panning. Any multitrack routing methods that work for this. Thanks Edit: He also talks about routing techniques for imitating mid-side microphone recording. Basically, in Dave Moulton's book, he speaks about how using Delay for panning, gives more convincing results when creating a "soundstage" than regular panning. And he preaches only 3 panning settings. Left/Center/Right, exclusively. I pan everywhere in between, however needed. But Im really interested in this panning with delays. I have experimented in the past with VST's that have Independent left and right channel delay lines on vocal stereo bus/group. Definately read this page: pretty interesting, though I am lost in the routing of the effects, in a multitrack setting, such as Cubase SX3 I believe the first schematic is what Im looking for, and can control panning by using longer/shorter delays.? Under schematic 1, reads "Longer delay return should have higher level to offset Haas effect pulling image toward shorter delay" http://www.moultonlabs.com/more/principles_of_multitrack_mixing_the_use_of_early_delays/P4/ If someone could reinterate on the routing within a multitrack program, that would be great. Or we could discuss anything in this post. Links are always good too.