TC X3 or Waves L3?

Discussion in 'Mastering' started by kabb, Jul 6, 2005.

  1. kabb

    kabb Guest

    Hi again,

    I'm looking for some professional advice on which of these two plugins comes out with the best results. I've done the 30 day demo of the L3 multimaximizer and I was very impressed. There's no demo for the TC X3 as it is powercore only but I've already heard good things about it..

    Your advice is appreciated

  2. TrilliumSound

    TrilliumSound Active Member

    In my opinion, the TC X3 sounds like the Finalizer, so if you heard or tried the finalizer, you can compare.
  3. kabb

    kabb Guest

    Thanks for that,

    I've also heard good things about the UAD limiting amp plugin. Any thoughts?

    Also.. What's you guys take on Waves L3? Is it really any good?

    Thanks again

  4. TrilliumSound

    TrilliumSound Active Member

    I think the UAD-1 is a great deal for the $. Everything sound pretty good in it. But, I do not think that there is a Multiband Comp/Lim as you were referring with the TC-X3 and the L3.

    For the L3, here is a link to the subject discussed here a while ago:
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  5. soundfarm

    soundfarm Guest

    I have used both the x3 and multimaximizer. My vote would have to be for the x3, but by a narrow margin. I am able to get more consistent results with the x3. However, I have upgraded to the x5 and am absolutely thrilled with it. Brought my clients mixes into a whole new realm of clarity and dynamic range. So, my advice is to opt for the tc electronics plugins. Eager to try the new md3 stereo mastering processor for myself. Have heard some great results from it.
  6. iznogood

    iznogood Guest

    multiband compression/limiting sucks..... (useful in rare cases)

    the best sounding limiter at the moment is the L2
  7. TrilliumSound

    TrilliumSound Active Member

    I do not think it sucks...why??

    ... maybe, I did not hear them all.
  8. iznogood

    iznogood Guest

    it destroys the timing and integrity of mixes.... roughly said multiband tears apart and singleband pulls together.....

    a mix that needs multiband is not a good mix...... that's why alot of inexperienced mixers love it... a good mix don't need "wonder-machines" like the L3...

    and have you ever heard radio.... some crap song smashed to hell with multiband.... i have a great tuner but i almost can't stand listening to radio... :shock:
  9. TrilliumSound

    TrilliumSound Active Member

    I do not think so. I think if it is a bad mix and it needs a multiband compressor to make it sound good then...this is what it needs. If it is a bad mix, I am not going to tell my client to mix again because I do not want to use a multiband comp!

    I know what you mean about the radio though but that is another thing.

    Hey, if it is to make it sound good and better, you bet I am going to use it and I did it a couple of times. Just for the sake of the result, how do I get to achieve it does not matter, multicomp or not.
  10. iznogood

    iznogood Guest

    i agree totally with everything you say...... but that doesn't change the fact that i tried using multicomp dozens of times..... and i (almost) never use it!

    It is always the same until someone changes it!
  11. TrilliumSound

    TrilliumSound Active Member

    Looks like that is not you :wink:
  12. Sork

    Sork Active Member

    Depends on how you use it. the easiest way, the way most "home ME's" use it is to smash the signal through it to make it loud. I often find it useful for de-essing, and sometimes pulling the low-end together if for example the toms are to bassy, and stands out too much in the low-end. Multibandcompressors can be useful if you know how to use them!
  13. iznogood

    iznogood Guest

    actually i'm trying to change the current plug-in/multicomp trend
  14. iznogood

    iznogood Guest

    i know how to use just about anything that has to do with audio..... including multicomp....

    i sometimes use multicomp on vocals..... analog multicomp of course!

    nice for deessing... as you said....

    but a good mix doesn't need deessing.... i should be done in the mix.... when i sometimes DS a mix i often find the cure worse than the problem.....
  15. TrilliumSound

    TrilliumSound Active Member

    I heard great mixes that needed some deessings. I agree with you that the cure could be worse than the problem but that is our job if the client want us to remove them.
  16. Alécio Costa - Brazil

    Alécio Costa - Brazil Well-Known Member


    I also hope to see MD3 and MD4 ported to TDM... but frankly probably it will not happen.
    TC MAster X 5 band is superior to the 3 band version, not only because it has the 2 bonus bands.
    I have compared the TC with L1. L1 sucks life of the program material.
    Eager to test L3+.
  17. ambientdig

    ambientdig Guest

    MD3 has been ported to TDM. I wouldn't get your hopes up for MD4 for a while. It's relatively new on the System (Mastering) 6000. tc seems to be good about releasing things for the System 6000 first and then bringing the technology down to other platforms.

    Read about MD3 for TDM here:

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