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The Amazing Shrinking Pro Tools Mix

Discussion in 'Pro Tools' started by tony-moore, Aug 24, 2005.

  1. tony-moore

    tony-moore Guest

    I've been given the task of editing and mixing a project that began on an adat, was transferred to some Yamaha DAW dealie and then exported to .WAV files. (This is an Americana, Folk-Rock type thing, BTW) I figured I would finally enter the 20th century and learn Pro Tools and by an mBox. All is well in tech land, no issues at all with the mBox, PTLE and my Mac. Even using PTLE is dang easy, on the surface anyway...

    BUT - On songs with a fair bit going on, say 20 tracks or so, the bounce just sounds "small". Monitoring the tracks doesn't sound "small". It's a pretty simple affair. EQ only when needed, just a bit of verb and a slight delay on the main vox. I never had this problem with ADATS, or stand-a-alone hard drive recorders. I think I'm hip to gain structure and am careful with the meters within PTLE. What am I doing wrong?

    Being a newbie sucks...


  2. Opus2000

    Opus2000 Distinguished Member

    Apr 7, 2001
    See this topic....


    What you need to understand is that mixes are not mastered..mastering is what brings the level and fullness to the mixes.

    It's also techniques as well. I laid down some ideas in the other topic so take a look at them and see if that helps understand your issue.

    Opus :D
  3. tony-moore

    tony-moore Guest

    Thanks Opus!

    I understand the concept of mastering and have had many of my mixes mastered. As said before, these mixes were all done in other media than PTLE.

    The difference I'm seeing is the difference in sound from monitoring the mix before and after the bounce. They should be the same, no? I'm asking because I've never experienced this mixing from ADAT or DAW...

    BTW, these mixes will be mastered prior to press.

    Off to your thread... :)

  4. iznogood

    iznogood Guest

    don't use bounce to disk

    use a digital loop instead (spdif out to in... to a new track that is muted)
  5. tony-moore

    tony-moore Guest

    Another good and simple suggestion!


    So why does bounce suck so bad? What happens when bouncing that doesn't happen using the suggestions in this thread?
  6. Tubetone

    Tubetone Guest

    when using reverb make sure you set up an AUX track and bus your singnals that to pick up reverb. If you use reverb as an insert it sounds like bigger piss. I case you didn't know.
  7. sickyboy

    sickyboy Guest

    Re: Another good and simple suggestion!

  8. Opus2000

    Opus2000 Distinguished Member

    Apr 7, 2001
    Re: Another good and simple suggestion!



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