Ok, After spending months and months of coming up with my own technique, I decided to take the Omnia for a spin. I gave up on the L2 as a limiter and after the round of tests here, I didn't like the MD4 any better, well maybe a touch better on some things. I felt I came up with something on my own that I felt pretty happy with but still felt that certain things could be better. I'm not talking about eq or compression or color, I have some great boxes that I paid a lot for and I think they are fantastic. I'm talking about volume and detail or detail and volume depending on who's asking. Here is my journey into the most expensive "volume maximizer" ever created by man. I called Mike Bogen at Dale pro audio in NYC and asked him if I could demo the unit. He told me that Omnia didn't really demo this unit and was reluctant to send one out without a quarantee that they would take it back if I didn't want it. After a little haggling, they agreed to take it back if I decided not to purchase it. It's a $12,000 limiter, I can't take it for a test drive???? After I plunked down my credit card and secured the $12,000 security and hoped I didn't like it, they put one together because they didn't have one built. Here is a series of posts as I dive into this black box!!! (by the way, If I like it and you buy one too, mention my name. I'm hoping for a couple of hundred bucks off the price.....) I just got the Omnia today. I haven't plugged it in yet as it took me most of the day to just get through the manual (clients will be happy to hear that I didn't finish their CD today :roll . It's a freakin book and it's not filled with meaningless type. I read it once, then read it again. There is no way you can do a meaningful comparison between this box and any other box. It's just got too many variables. It's so complex that you can't even set it up from scratch, you have to start with a preset and work from there. Here is a BRIEF rundown of just the main processing, not even mentioning the parameters you can adjust within each of these process's. there are parameters in here i've never even heard of much less seen in any box. Upsampling>input stage(lots of parameters)>wideband AGC compressor (typical with a couple thrown in)>Xover network (more parameters)>multiband AGC compressor (lots of parameters)>AGC mixer>enhancer(3 bass enhancers and 1 stereo enhancer)>limter xover network (weee, more choices)>6 band limiter (more crap, it's not a brickwall unless you want it to be)>limiter mixer>2 band bass clipper>main clipper (3 options)>ouput section... I'm not kidding, it takes 2 pages to just show the flow chart. I've never seen anything like this. I thought the weiss DS1 had a lot of stuff, but this takes the cake. I'm going to reluctantly plug it in tomorrow and run some audio through it. There is a section just on security control (3 levels) to keep people out of certain areas and from seeing certain setup parameters. There is no way you can have a meaningful comparison unless I just pick a preset and run the audio through it. Every parameter in each section is not only adjustable but intelligent also. So if you adjust the release of 1 band of the compressor, it interacts with the attack and ratio of not only that band, but the other bands. They even state in the manual that they don't give realworld values to anything because it doesn't relate to exact values. for example attack isn't measured in ms, you get a pot that goes from 0-7, less to more. At least he printed the entire article that Rip Rowen wrote about rush's vapor trails CD in the manual to discourage abuse of this box. After I've sat with it for a few days, I might have a handle on it and what it can do. I'll keep you posted.