I want to deal specifically with the Round trip issue identified in other threads. We all agree that an ITB recording should not suffer from the phase issues of round tripping. This should be easy enough to test. There are several members who claim to be able to hear phase shift from "round tripping" easily. If I take 6 mixes of raw drum tracks and bounce some of them totally ITB with no processing and send others with each track round tripped with no processing and then bounce them you guys should be able to pick out which is which with nearly 100% accuracy. I understand the quality of the conversion and the hardware gear( a relatively clean D&R console) will effect the test. It should make it easier for analog guys to hear the result. Who wants to participate? Is there a better way to test this?