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They've done it again : Mic modeling

Discussion in 'Microphones' started by pcrecord, May 4, 2016.

  1. pcrecord

    pcrecord Don't you want the best recording like I do ? Well-Known Member

    What do you think ? who is that for ?


    Personnaly, I think the more we go in time less the people ear the difference of the real thing
    Drums, guitar amp, preamp, mics, and countless comp and EQ.. Thank God they can't do convincing vocals yet !!! ;)
  2. Kurt Foster

    Kurt Foster Distinguished Member

    seems like a nice tool. not the same as the real things of course. there's more to the differences in mics than just the "tone" but perhaps useful. you never know until you try it.

    it would be interesting to use a 58 as the source and target mic and see what differences (or not) there were.
  3. Sean G

    Sean G Well-Known Member

    Looks interesting, definately shapes the sound of the vocals.

    They do a trial of the T-Racks ccustom shop bundle which this is a part of...may have to DL to try it out.
  4. dvdhawk

    dvdhawk Well-Known Member

    I've used the old Antares mic modeler ages ago. It was fun to take something like a string pad from a DI'ed keyboard and tell it I mic'ed it with an SM57 - and see what it might sound like if I used a high-dollar Neumann, Lawson, Manley mic (even though there was no mic involved). Or we'd take a vocal tracked with a TLM-193 or C414 and tell the modeler it was a $100 dynamic and see what happened. It was usually pretty predictable bumps in the presence range, some more flattering than others. Occasionally we'd find something that would get kicked up a notch with it. You could control distance, pattern, tube drive.

    Sonically it was interesting. As far as being a dead-ringer for the high-dollar mic - how the heck would I know?
  5. Sean G

    Sean G Well-Known Member

    I just DL'd the trial and ran it on a vocal track, it appears to have a more subtle effect than in the video, although I'm not sure what the source mic was on the vocal track I tried it on so I just assumed the source was an SM-58...with the output mic the 87 model which smoothed the vocal to a degree.
  6. DonnyThompson

    DonnyThompson Distinguished Member

    I tried it several months ago... it didn't sound bad or anything, but it didn't have any kind of "wow factor" for me. It didn't really do anything that EQ and a saturator plug couldn't do - and I say this as usually being a fan of modeling.

    Still, that's not to say that this couldn't be useful - as I've mentioned several times before, it doesn't have to be a dyed in the wool emulation of something to be a valuable tool.

    Slate has a more expensive version of mic modeling - where a reference mic and a preamp/i-o are included. I haven't used it so I can't comment.

    IMHO of course.
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  7. Sean G

    Sean G Well-Known Member

    I was thinking the same thing Donny, this is like a shortcut if not limited in a way to what can be done with EQ and something like Softubes' Saturation Knob.

    When I DL'd the trial version I was suprised to see that they give you their Classic EQ and also their Metering plugs for free...

    the tight-arsed Scot in me liked that little bonus ;)
  8. DonnyThompson

    DonnyThompson Distinguished Member

    Their Classic EQ isn't too bad, either. I'm generally a fan of T-Racks, I think that many of their plugs sound just as good - some even better - than their more expensive counterparts by Waves and Slate.

    I love T-Racks SSL emulations.
  9. Sean G

    Sean G Well-Known Member

    I am trialling the T-Racks Custom Shop bundle...some of the EQs' do sound good.
    Its only a 10 day trial though :(

    I'll have to check to see if the SSL emulations are in that particular bundle, only had a brief look through the list when I updated my plug-ins in Studio One while trying the Mic Room plug-in on a vocal a few hours ago.

    I'll get stuck in tonight and have a play around by opening an old project, removing all the existing plug-ins then starting from scratch.

    Grinning like a kid with the keys to the lollie shop :D

    @DonnyThompson did you check out that LA3 one I sent you the link to ?

    - you can run it with the plug-in off and still add some color according to the pdf file instructions that come with the download.
  10. DonnyThompson

    DonnyThompson Distinguished Member

    They have two - The "British Channel", and The "White Channel". The BC is an emulation of the older E Series, while the WC is an emulation of the G Series. I really like both... I didn't think I needed both when I bought them, but the bundle, which included the E and the G, and the SSL Bus Compressor ( British Compressor) was less expensive at the time than if I'd bought just one of the SSL strips, so I ended up with both.

    I also had the older 32 bit Waves SSL plugs, and to me, I think the T-Racks sounds just as good - and at the time, the T-Racks stuff was less than half the price of the Waves versions. I don't know how the pricing is now, the plug makers seem to be in a price war recently, all trying to outdo each other in lowering prices - which of course, I have no problem with. ;)

    Oh... one more thing... Remember to open up T-Racks Custom Shop, (and then you can minimize it to your tray) while using demo versions of the plugs, otherwise you'll get a blast of white noise every thirty seconds. ;)
  11. Sean G

    Sean G Well-Known Member

    Yeah I found that out...couldn't work out how to authorise the demo...until I went back and read the fine print :rolleyes:

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