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Things to Consider

Discussion in 'Computing' started by Opus2000, Nov 14, 2002.

  1. Opus2000

    Opus2000 Well-Known Member

    Got some very very valuable information today....I will share some of it but can only give limited information....
    Basically...if you are going to buy WD drives...buy the 120GB ones.
    Buy Micron Memory
    Use Maxtor drives more so than anything for the OS.
    Never buy IBM drives...Fujitsu makes their drives and IBM slaps their labels on em..
    Crucial, Kingston and many others no longer use Micron chips...cheaply made memory now!
    Athlon XP Processors are actually garbage(this is almost from the horses mouth folks!!!) But we knew that one huh! lol
    ANUS RULES!
    Opus :D
     
  2. eskimo

    eskimo Guest

    Why the 120Gb WD?
    I was going for the 80 Gb
     
  3. Opus2000

    Opus2000 Well-Known Member

    Cough...problems with mainboard...cough...high failure rates...cough..cough..
    Opus :D
     
  4. eskimo

    eskimo Guest

    damn, it's a difference of 60$.
    I'm kind of a tight budget.
    btw.
    I'm going for an ANUS.
    what do you think of:
    asus P4B533 i845 E
    P4 northwood 2,4 ghz
    Philips burner
    Matrox 550
    WD audio HD

    ???
     
  5. Opus2000

    Opus2000 Well-Known Member

    Great...but what type of memory and how much? Make sure to update the BIOS as well on that board. It's really easy...download BIOS update from Asus site. Put it on a blank floppy(MUST BE BLANK!!!) Press ALT+F2 on boot up and type in BIOS name...usually P4B533100X.awd( X Being the revision number)Press enter and follow instructions...usually Y or N...do press Y! :D
    Please post back with what memory you are going to use...
    Side note here....SOME P4's 2.8Ghz AND LOWER MAY BE HYPER THREADING CAPABLE!!! I AM LOOKING INTO THIS RIGHT NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Opus :D
     
  6. SonOfSmawg

    SonOfSmawg Well-Known Member

    OPUS wrote:
    "Athlon XP Processors are actually garbage(this is almost from the horses mouth folks!!!)"
    Okay, okay, I hear ya, I hear ya. I've been trying to configure an AthlonXP system for weeks now, and frankly, I'm pretty fed-up with it. Athlons are great for Joe-Schmoe internet surfer, since they're great on a good KT333 board, but to design one for audio is still damn-near impossible. The ASUS A7M266-D has no CPU clock multiplier, the two 64-bit PCI slots are far from "backward compatible", the included USB 2.0 card uses-up one of the three 32-bit PCI slots, and the rest of the features (very few) are old, lackluster technology. Conversely, the new ASUS nForce2 board has all the new bells and whistles, but DDR400 is proven to bog down the performance, SATA is still in it's infancy, and if you buy one you'd better be prepared to play the role of "public beta tester".
    So, before I fork over my cash to be a beta tester, I'm going to explore the option of ... I don't believe I'm saying this ... a P4. I definately can't afford the latest, greatest Intel stuff on the market (considering the incredibly bloated price tags), but I'm going to see if I can do it within my budget (VERY small). Any advice will be welcome since I've never dealved into "the dark side" before.
    I'm having this vision of walking into a puter store and Darth Vader is the P4 salesman. "We can get you easy credit, Luke." LMFAO
    Hmmmm ... maybe I should just head down to Walmart and get one of those $199 Lindows machines!
     
  7. Opus2000

    Opus2000 Well-Known Member

    SATA is not going to be anything truly until Phase 2 as they call it...this is where the real speed and flexability of SATA will come to play nicely and most mainboards are outfitted with it. Right now Asus has it on all their new boards!
    The one I am configuring for Berklee College of Music has it but I disabled it...
    Asus P4PE W/2.8Ghz CPU 1GB PC2700 DDR333....thing runs like a champ!!
    Anyhue, you're on it now SOS...join the dark side!!!
    Opus :D
     
  8. SonOfSmawg

    SonOfSmawg Well-Known Member

    OK I see you're on. Which motherboard?
     
  9. Opus2000

    Opus2000 Well-Known Member

    What ya mean what motherboard? Asus P4PE.....
    I'm waiting for the P4G8X to come out...Granite Bay and the 3.06Ghz CPU with 1GB DDR PC3500!!!
    Hee hee!
    Opus
     
  10. eskimo

    eskimo Guest

    Thanks Opus.
    I'm going for at least 512mb of DDR(PC2100)ram(more if my wallet will allow it).
    Any suggestions of brand?
    I was thinking of kingston.
    Do you think I should go for a different mobo?
     
  11. Opus2000

    Opus2000 Well-Known Member

    Do yourself a favor and get Micron memory...and get the highest count as possible
    PC2700 upt o PC3500!!
    Stay with that board...it's just fine!!
    Opus
     
  12. EdWray

    EdWray Active Member

    SATA releases according to Seagate:
    Generation 1 150MB/s fall 2002
    Generation 2 300MB/s mid 2004
    Generation 3 600MB/s mid 2007
     
  13. BrockStapper

    BrockStapper Guest

    I would suggest going with the p4b533-v as it uses the 845g chipset which can support 2700 ddr with no problems. any thoughts, opus? do you think this would be a better board?
     
  14. SonOfSmawg

    SonOfSmawg Well-Known Member

    OPUS is the P4PE/R/GBL/F/SATA okay? I'm thinking Seagate 80Gb SATA drive? Also, I'm not sure about the CPU. I remember a post about needing to get one that is manufactured in one place as opposed to another. Keep in mind that I'm on a tight budget and will probably have to get one of the bottom of the line CPUs, which will probably be fine anyway I'm guessing.
     
  15. Tommy P.

    Tommy P. Well-Known Member

    :roll:
    OPUS
    U didn't mean to say not to buy Crucial. Its Micron Technology's online company brand of ram. Unless they don't use thier own chips anymore... Crucial=Micron
     
  16. Opus2000

    Opus2000 Well-Known Member

    Brock
    Yes, 845G chipset indeed!
    SOS,
    Yes, Asus P4PE with the 1394/SATA
    Tommy,
    No, Crucial no longer use Micron!!! :(

    Opus
     
  17. Tommy P.

    Tommy P. Well-Known Member

    What in the holy hell? I just took this right off their website. Man am I out of the loop...and so are they! Did somebody aquire Crucial recently, and they havn't changed thier website recently?
     
  18. Opus2000

    Opus2000 Well-Known Member

    Tommy
    So it seems they have not updated nor released any news yet...this is reliable information though.
    I will see what I can dig up though
    Cheers
    Opus
     
  19. Tommy P.

    Tommy P. Well-Known Member

    Man, you really are connected! I just searched all my old sites, and havn't come up with anything on it.
    This Canadian site used to be the first place I'd surf to before hitting HARDOC or Toms :
    http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/1/index.html
     
  20. SonOfSmawg

    SonOfSmawg Well-Known Member

    Few more questions:
    *The CPU I'm considering is "Intel Pentium 4 2.4BGHz 512K 533MHz CPU Northwood P478 Processor Retail Box". $197 from Newegg, free shipping. Is this adequate? Is it the right one to use with that mobo? Do I need to make sure it comes from the right country?
    *Given that you guys use the stock hs/fan, is it safe to assume that I can use a Zalman CNPS6500A-Cu (914g pure copper) on it WITHOUT a fan, and achieve the same or similar overclocking results?
    *You are recommending Micron memory, which is typically CAS 2.5. I've read a LOT that Corsair CAS2 PC2700 gives better overclocking results, but it costs a little more. Is that adviseable?
    I have the weekend to gather my info and make up my mind, cuz if I don't set myself a limit I'll never get the damn thing built. Any and all help and advice will be greatly appreciated.
     

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