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Think I May Be Miking Wrong...

Discussion in 'Recording' started by Guitarfreak, Mar 18, 2009.

  1. Guitarfreak

    Guitarfreak Well-Known Member

    Or maybe I'm just wrong. Just got my pair of SM's today YAY! SM57 and 58 are now mine. I tried miking two rhythm parts on this song I'm starting, but it sounds really dark, even when I roll off bass and boost highs. (I don't like boosting or cutting more than 3 or 4 dB usually)

    So I divert to miking techniques or other ways of achieving the sound I want. I want the Senses Fail - Can't Be Saved sound, maybe a little less wet and chaotic. Or maybe Just Surrender - I Can Barely Breathe is a closer match. I like heavy rhythms with the leads sounding smooth yet defined. (Holy $*^t I bet you've never heard of that one before) :D:D:D

    I mic a few inches from the center of the cone rotated to face the center of the left side of the cone. I'll try other things tomorrow, including pointing the mic more towards the center to get brighter sound. But some advice/comments/conversation would be cool too.

    (Half of the time I just post for the fun of it, it's just fun having people to talk to about this stuff :)
     
  2. iamfrobs

    iamfrobs Guest

    I've seen Just Surrender live a few times. They used Fenders the last time I saw them, the tele/strat sound with some distortion might account for the definition of it.

    Speculation of course

    Also of note, they recorded recently with ace enders.
    It was on absolutepunk last month.

    Good stuff, just experiment, it might end up sounding better...
     
  3. RemyRAD

    RemyRAD Well-Known Member

    iamfrobs can't record a bad sounding guitar. Especially with that API 1608 for his avatar. Am I right? API 1608? That's all you need with your SM57/58 and your guitar will sound like well the way a guitar should sound. No, it's not the best mike preamp. It is THE preamp. It's only another $500 per channel. You'll be able to afford that by your next lifetime. It'll be good for other things also. Your next lifetime, not the preamp.

    Almost as many lives as a cat. So I'm running out.
    Ms. Remy Ann David
     
  4. iamfrobs

    iamfrobs Guest

    Of course you are right Ms. David. I finally saw one in real life about a month ago. It had to be my avatar.

    It was probably one of the best moments of my life.

    Is that sad?
     
  5. Guitarfreak

    Guitarfreak Well-Known Member

    lol, how is my EQ technique? Cut first, then boost, and not too much, and I usually try to not have more than two humps or valleys per track. I also usually roll off guitar tracks at 150Hz at 24 or 48db/Octave.
     
  6. BDM

    BDM Active Member

    1. Never have more than 2 EQ peaks or valleys per track.
    2. Always roll off the guitar below 130.5555Hz, no matter how it sounds.
    3. Always point a sm57 at the part of the speaker that makes the noise, unless it is unplugged.
    8. Always plug in the speaker.
    11. Always increase the ratio/attack/release/uberfuber until the compressor is getting rid of those nasty dynamics, and then turn it up a little more.
    13. the bypass button is your friend: Always keep it on.
    21. if it's too loud, Always EQ the hell out of it: Volume faders are for wussies. you want to decrease the volume??? what, are you a little sissy?????
    99. he retired.

    g'nite!
     
  7. Guitarfreak

    Guitarfreak Well-Known Member

    Here, I re-recorded the parts just now with the mic a still angled towards the cone, but moved more towards the inner portion of the cone. My ears are shot because my amp is in the same room that I record in. @_@

    I'll check it more in depth when I get home tonight, but I want to hear what you guys think.

    http://www.myspace.com/chrysalisct

    It's called Mic Check, you can't miss it
     
  8. RemyRAD

    RemyRAD Well-Known Member

    I definitely like the way your McCheck sounded. Now just double that part the same way. Double it physically not electronically. Then you'll have all that you want. It takes "take two" to nail it down, solidly.

    Nailing it is so crucifixable
    Ms. Remy Ann David
     
  9. Guitarfreak

    Guitarfreak Well-Known Member

    Does that mean the coil or the cone? The whole package kind of contributes to the sound in different ways.

    BTW is that from Slipperman? LOL

    Thanks for the good review Remy. Come on, opinions, critiques anything, I'm looking for a lot of them.
     

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