Time correction and phase alignment between direct mic

Discussion in 'Tracking / Mixing / Editing' started by audiokid, Jun 5, 2015.

  1. audiokid

    audiokid Staff

    Published on Dec 20, 2012
    This looks pretty cool. Has anyone used this? Simply put, digital audio is definitely getting interesting. Check out the Pannoir from Merging Technologies.
     
  2. DonnyThompson

    DonnyThompson Distinguished Member

    That was a substantial difference. These tools amaze me - although not as much as the people who think of them and who design them.

    Pyramix has been a name that has been popping up on my radar in my audio related internet travels lately - and I'd never heard of them before. Do they make a dedicated production platform? Or just processing?
     
  3. pcrecord

    pcrecord Don't you want the best recording like I do ? Well-Known Member

    It seems like a nice product. What's bothering me is that there is many adjustments and I'm thinking more settings = more ways to fail.
    I'd rather not use any tools like that but when there is obviously no alternative, I prefer an all automatic system.

    I discovered soundradix plugin which was presented to me by you Chris if I remember. It is very simple and effective.
    http://www.soundradix.com/products/auto-align

    There is also MAutoalign that seems interesting

    But
    I realise that all automatic may miss a great point which is the correlation with phasing and various effects on specific parts of the frequency spectrum.
    You see if we reference 3 mics to a forth one, it might be that the second one would be aligned with the forth but cancelling a part of the third one..
    When this happend it would be appropriate to work only on the frequencies affected..
    If anyone knows a tool to address that I'm a buyer ! ;)

    Voxengo PHA-979 isn't giving a solution to this but offers a spectral correlation metter that reveals the issue I'm talking about.
    pha979-large1024.jpg
     
  4. thatjeffguy

    thatjeffguy Active Member

    I'm with pc on wanting to avoid the more complex controls. I too found and use AutoAlign. I love it for its ease-of-use and the speed at which I can get results during a mixing session. But this PanNoir definitely shows striking results, it would take me a while to wrap my head around the controls. Since most of my work is really quite simple in terms of instrumentation and arrangement, and given that I ONLY mix that which I myself have tracked, for my needs it looks like overkill. But very innovative and effective in this demo.
    Thanks for posting this, Chris!
    ~Jeff
     
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  5. niclaus

    niclaus Active Member


    They do make a dedicated platform:

    http://www.merging.com/products/pyramix

    Actually, it used to be pretty big here in the post-production business a few years back.
     
  6. audiokid

    audiokid Staff

    Exactly this!
    (y)
    http://www.merging.com/products/pyramix/key-features#record
     
  7. DonnyThompson

    DonnyThompson Distinguished Member

    That's the most attractive part, IMO... that you can immediately alter that which might be creating an issue with the mastering process.

    A few other features that also piqued my interest:

    "The mixer has VCAs, Subgroups, Multi-Mono, Multi-Stereo and Stem-Surround buses and Auxiliaries."

    "Pyramix even features over 23000ms of delay compensation to allow for almost limitless plugin use without any effect on timeline sync!"


    "Pyramix also boasts the ability to be able to place any file (mixed sample rates, file types, bit depths, codecs and track widths) on a single timeline with no rendering required whatsoever."

    And This: "48 track recording @ DXD / 384 kHz"... okay... someone please tell me what "DXD" means... because I've never heard of anyone recording at a SR of 384k before. :eek:
    On second thought, ya know what? Don't tell me. I don't need to know.

    Okay, okay, okay.... I just need to stop. I need to stop right now.

    Y'all are gonna have to excuse me for a little bit. I need to go and chant my mantra now...."Ohmmm...Ohmmm..."There's no place like Samplitude, There's no place like Samplitude, There's no place like Samplitude..."
     
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