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Tracking-individual headphone mix

Discussion in 'Recording' started by Eriksmusicproduction, Nov 2, 2005.

  1. Eriksmusicproduction

    Eriksmusicproduction Active Member

    Oct 17, 2005
    Wondering what the big studios and engineers use for musicians headphone mix when tracking a whole band?

    Do they run for instance, 8 bus lines out of main mixer and then to an individual mixer for each musician? Or do all the musicians get the same mix/different level?

    I have been considering buying 4 or so cheap mixers for this.

  2. IIRs

    IIRs Well-Known Member

    Oct 23, 2005
    Pre-fade aux sends are the usual method. If you have enough auxiliaries you can give each musician their own mix, though they can't adjust it themsleves.
  3. gilligan204

    gilligan204 Guest

    I just give them a stero mix of what I got, if they are grumpy then I set up the aux sends for them, give lots a click to the drummer !
  4. Eriksmusicproduction

    Eriksmusicproduction Active Member

    Oct 17, 2005
  5. jahtao

    jahtao Guest

    dont buy lots of mixers buy a headphone mix box, designed for this purpose. you might wanna consider using soundcard outs instead of big mixer aux sends if this suits.

    definitely try and get em all listenig to the stero bus its far less balls to juggle and its what the song sounds like so they might play more in the pocket but performance can be really affected by monitoring eg a singer will be more likely to sing loud if its voice is a little quiet in the headphones
  6. rudedogg

    rudedogg Guest

    Its different in different studios, but at the places I like to work we bus the drums into a stereo mix, and mult the stereo drums, bass, guitar and click into a oz audio hm6 (discontinued).

    however mackie just came out with the exact same thing for about 250 bucks. the mackie hmx56

    it works with protools too if you have a daw only setup. just do bus sends in the daw into your outputs, and you have an amazingly flexible solution.

  7. Davedog

    Davedog Distinguished Member

    Dec 10, 2001
    Pacific NW
    Excellent information gentlemen.

    I may make this a sticky after all the opinions or methods are in.

    Its important to stress how much of your 'vibe' comes from what the musicians are playing off of. I realize that there are limitations based on gear and gear flexability. This is where tact and people skills can save a performance. Grumpy players doesnt mean a clean and comprehensive part.

    Studios can become famous for their headphone mixes.

    Ya spend three and a half hours getting a perfect drumsound in the studio monitors.........and spend ten minutes on the foldback....

    I guess I know too many picky players. That would include me.

    When I'm tracking, theres nothing more comforting than to ask for a mix of instruments in the cans and get it solid and easily. I get some very good takes like that....as a musician/talent......

    LOVE the Oz.

    If ya got enough subs and auxes, these things become golden when you can break em out to the subs in Stereo.

    Yeah. I think its really important to have a good headphone mix...and have it at every station in yer tracking area.

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