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Trouble identifying & mimicking sound effect (reverse ec

Discussion in 'Recording' started by Spoondogg, Mar 3, 2005.

  1. Spoondogg

    Spoondogg Guest

    First off, hey guys, I'm new to this forum. I hope I'm posting this in the right category.

    Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

    Here's my problem:

    I'm actually a graphics guy, but unfortunately my workplace lacks a decent audio engineer, so (amongst other positions) I attempt to fill the position from time to time.

    Anyhow, I've got a great graphic with a nearly complete audio mix, but I'm looking to create a certain effect on a voice track. The only way I can think to describe it is that it would make use of a reversed echo of the existing voice track.

    It's often used in films (ie: lord of the rings) when people are talking with telepathy. Kind of a fantasy'ish, possessed voice effect, where the words seem to anticipate themselves.

    So if anybody out there has an idea what this effect would be called, or just how to emulate it, PLEASE let me know.

  2. David French

    David French Well-Known Member

    Hey Spoon, welcome to RO. Reverse reverb is easy. Reverse the audio, apply reverb, reverse again.
  3. Massive Mastering

    Massive Mastering Well-Known Member

    It takes a bit of experimenting to find the "perfect" verb...

    You *might* want to put just a little "normal" verb on it first also to help take the "bite" off of it. Something with a pre-delay of about 50 milliseconds to help diffuse the reverse verb...

    And if you print the reverse verb to a track, you can truly go nuts on it - EQ, flange, etc...
  4. David French

    David French Well-Known Member

    More good advice.
  5. LittleDogAudio

    LittleDogAudio Active Member

    You may also want to tailor the verb so that the highs are rolled off quite a bit. This way, the voice will gain clarity as it progresses in time.

  6. Spoondogg

    Spoondogg Guest

    Thanks guys... I'll give it a go and see what happens.

    I really appreciate the help!
  7. Spoondogg

    Spoondogg Guest

    Tried it out... Exactly what I was looking for!

    Again, thanks a lot guys. This really helped me out.

  8. Massive Mastering

    Massive Mastering Well-Known Member

    BTW - Give thanks real quick for the ease of that effect...

    In the "good 'ol days" we flipped the tape reels over, figured out which track was where when the tape was upside-down, recorded the verb aux, flipped the tape back over, recalled all the settings from before, listened.

    And did it over and over until it sounded perfect.

    And prayed that you wouldn't drop or otherwise damage one of the reels or kink the tape.

    What took stacks of notes and hours of time is done in a matter of seconds in a good DAW.

    Just my little "moment of appreciation" for today.
  9. Spoondogg

    Spoondogg Guest

    Interesting point there--I'll be the first to admit that I'm pretty much part of the new school method of doing things **Gotta love digital**--albeit I'm an editor, its still a pain to pull off some of the fancy stuff in the linear world, so I can DEFINATELY appreciate the easiness of this effect in the digital world.

    So again, Thanks guys


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