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audio Try out new songs

Discussion in 'Fix This MIX!' started by Smashh, Dec 6, 2014.

  1. Smashh

    Smashh Active Member

    Hi all , thought Id post a couple of songs . Let me know how it comes across your end .
    They are both in Moari language so most wont understand but Id like to know if the
    feeling comes across .
    'Po Atarau' is a well known farewell song .

    View: https://soundcloud.com/musicmanash/po-atarau

    'Te wehenga' is a song penned by our friend , telling the Moari legend of the creation .

    View: https://soundcloud.com/musicmanash/te-wehenga

    Cheers :)
    Kurt Foster likes this.
  2. pcrecord

    pcrecord Don't you want the best recording like I do ? Well-Known Member

    Smashh, I'm not sure what you are asking.
    The songs are nice and seems to show good performances. But they didn't burst emotions in me.
    I hear quite a bit of noises in both songs, specially in the quieter parts.

    Are those productions you participated in ?
  3. Smashh

    Smashh Active Member

    Thanks PC , That is what the feed back I was after.
    Im having trouble with acoustic guitar ( mainly my arm or leg rubbing against the guitar body ), and creating a shhh sort of sound.
    Got any tips on how to negate this ?

    Also the electric guitar and bass when I go for a clearer sound in the mix , alot of hiss comes into play.
    I have experimented with the channel strip settings on the way in , but as yet still not right.
    Maybe I should push the 3-8k on the way in and just trim it out when mixing. ATM I tend to add in that area through EQ in mix stage
    Any ideas would be welcome here.

    If I could get rid of these noises , it would most likely help making more accurate decisions when using reverbs,
    and also bring more emotive content out of the mix.

    My wife and I did these at home , she drummed and I played a guitar first ,then we overdubbed.
    I can hear more clarity than my last efforts, but with that , also more other things comming out to work on next mission.
  4. pcrecord

    pcrecord Don't you want the best recording like I do ? Well-Known Member

    Human noises don't disturb me that much, it makes things alive. But Iss and gear noises are not fun to carry arround
    When the noises are there through the notes it's harder to deal with. You could use an after the fact restoration software to clear those noises (like Izotope RX4)
    but at least a gate well calibrated or smart edition and/or volume automation for the in between noises.

    There is a lot to win with proper gain staging and choice of signal path units as well.

    Anyway, good work and nice project with your wife ;)
  5. Smashh

    Smashh Active Member

    Thanks Pc , will check out some gain staging info , I ve got the gist of it so far, will look for more detailed explanations .
  6. pcrecord

    pcrecord Don't you want the best recording like I do ? Well-Known Member

    Or check this out : http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/sep13/articles/level-headed.htm
  7. Smashh

    Smashh Active Member

    Thanks for the links Pc , That was a good read and starting to get my head around this a little better now.
    Yesterday we had a band rehearsal at home and I recorded it. Room mic + indivdual channels for sax/flute , keys , bass , and the vocals .
    nothing was clipping on the desk or in the daw( no plug ins ) , but it was horribly clipping at times when listening .
    I will pull it up today and see what is going on .
    I ve got another question here,

    Will different frequencies use more or less headroom ?
    For eg if I have x dbs of 180 hertz , will it use the same share of the pie as say x dbs of 3K
  8. pcrecord

    pcrecord Don't you want the best recording like I do ? Well-Known Member

    When I think of headroom, I think of how high my recording level is while leaving room for peaks and dynamics in relation with the noise floor of the equipment. But what we sometime forget is that if you have 12 tracks peaking -6db, the sum of them may overload the master bus when we play them without lowering their gains or faders. That's why many engineer will set the DAW record level of each tracks to peak a lot lower. -12db and even some at -20db. Also some engineer put all the faders to -6 before doing any playbacks. For me, I try to record near mixing levels, so when I playback, it's already sounding like a band. Continu to experiment, you'll get it I'm sure ;)

    the use of headroom depends on how dynamic instruments are. An electric guitar with full distorstion will have less dynamics than a piano (depending on the player) But it's true that your meters will react more when low frequencies are recorded. Compressors will also react more to LF content.
    But again, if you set the levels correctly it won't be a problem.

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