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UAD-1 and Emagic Logic

Discussion in 'Logic' started by sagreene, Aug 6, 2003.

  1. sagreene

    sagreene Guest

    Hi,

    I had a friend 'master' a track of mine with the UAD-1. Although my mix was a bit weak, the results were......well let's say I want one :)

    I've heard that using them on individual tracks is not working very well in Logic audio...bigtime latency. Anyone using this effectively? Should I just switch to nuendo now? I'd love to strap the 1176 on some drums.......

    thanks
     
  2. Nate Tschetter

    Nate Tschetter Active Member

    Howdy

    Individual tracks aren't the problem, "live inputs" (auxes, buses and audio instruments) are. To minimize latency, Logic uses a different buffers for different parts of it mixer. There are some workarounds but basically, the solution is to _only_ use the Powered Plugs on individual tracks.

    A fix for Logic is coming soon. Don't ask how I know. Act natural, say nothing.
     
  3. sagreene

    sagreene Guest

    right on nate...

    will that be for pc??

    i'll probably buy a g5 when the next series comes out, but that will be a while...

    sam
     
  4. Nate Tschetter

    Nate Tschetter Active Member

    Howdy

    No, the fix is for the next version of Logic on the Mac.
     
  5. Opus2000

    Opus2000 Well-Known Member

    It still amazes me that a company can be racist towards a computer platform...I know it's primarily Apple that is doing it but still...

    The only thought it...
    Staggers the Mind! :D
     
  6. Alécio Costa - Brazil

    Alécio Costa - Brazil Well-Known Member

    PT guys are starting to cry worried about the PCI-X issue of the G5´s...
     
  7. Opus2000

    Opus2000 Well-Known Member

    Arent'y the PCI-X slots supposed to be backwards compatible though?!

    Im sure soon enough there will be some hardwaremade that will take advantage of that speed...

    Opus :D
     
  8. Alécio Costa - Brazil

    Alécio Costa - Brazil Well-Known Member

    We hope so my friend.. People do want more and more powerful chips... 6.2 is on his way ..
    :)
     
  9. kierankelly

    kierankelly Guest

     
  10. Nate Tschetter

    Nate Tschetter Active Member

    Howdy

    I don't think "racist" is a good term.

    I've heard some rumors that some PCI cards won't fit in the G5. Actually, from what I can tell, more _won't_ fit then _will_. Firewire may be the best way to go.

    I believe this includes Pro Tools. Yikes!
     
  11. Alécio Costa - Brazil

    Alécio Costa - Brazil Well-Known Member

    they have just dropped the plain old good d24´s and certainly dsp farms. The Digi guy wrote Mix I/o. !!!

    If the G5´s will come bundled with only 3 slots, seems lots of expansion chassis will be popping up everywhere!
    Or isn´t it time to Digi release a reaaaaaaaaly powerful HD+?
     
  12. 3dchris

    3dchris Active Member

    Kieran. Good for them. And they can stick it up their dirty as*** as I'm switching to Nuendo 2
    And if you say Apple is stable then you probably never used one!

    thx

    chris
     
  13. Alécio Costa - Brazil

    Alécio Costa - Brazil Well-Known Member

    Sorry, I don´t agree with you. I got two Macs here, ( G4 800 QS and a G3 233 beige) and they are a breeze.

    I Just use Norton and Disk warrior to keep the things going fine, avoid internet viruses ( machines only for audio tasks) and cracks and I never have problems.

    Not that a PC could not handle, in fact it would be much more cheaper, but I just did not enjoy it.
     
  14. 3dchris

    3dchris Active Member

    Alecio,
    I was making 2 projects on macs (dual 500 and dual 1g) and they both cannot compete with my current rig (p4 3g overclocked to 3.3). I used logic audio on both. I get much more power from PC. But that's not the case...the thing is that MAC was crashing at least once a day...just restarting without warning...and that happened on 2 computers not just one. There was nothing else but music software installed (logic, peak , some plugins and toast for burning). Maybe it was configuration, I don't know. I know what was my experience with it. And the worst thing is that I do not know how to fix mac so I was stucked with showing him finger and cursing at him. I was about to get a voodoo doll and teach mac a lesson but I finished the project soon enough hehe :)
    Since I switched to PC and winxp all my problems are gone and I had a crash maybe twice in the last 2 months and I'm sure it is because I overclocked the system. I'm running 30-40 96/24 audio tracks + 15-20 virtual instruments + 20+ real time plugins withouth any problem. The only thing that seems to be too slow is my HD but I got additional FireWire drive so I can mix from 2 drives at the same time. I wish I could try pro tools on mac. It is probably totally different experience..but logic on mac is nothing but pain in the ass. That's my experience, Alecio :)

    Can we still be friends even though we love different machines? :)

    chris

    [ August 22, 2003, 07:54 AM: Message edited by: 3dchris ]
     
  15. kierankelly

    kierankelly Guest

    3d chris I am comming over to kick your ass. as I am in your lovely city all summer ( as long as the street car doesn't stop from a blackout ) .

    seriously.. I have had great luck with my macs ( PT 5.2 tdm on a g4 duel 500 ,9.2 and pt 6.1 le on a titainum 867 OSX ) Logic is not a very intutive program ( I used it in v4 ) so your experience might be influenced by that .

    The platform that people chose to use is there biz . But I anti- this , pro-that can be misleading to those looking into a system .

    On the other hand the PC market seems to be driven by faster, cheaper, while the Mac market has been geared towards production. What I can produce with a platform has been the factor in my chosing. PC's are awsome if you are a savvy computer person. you can twick it to your hearts content.

    all this said to quote the high priestess of pop

    music makes the people come together
     
  16. 3dchris

    3dchris Active Member

    Kieran, hehe...come over. I need someone to kick my ass :) As I said to Alecio, I never tried pro tools. I think pro tools is totally different thing. My experience is based on logic and I absolutely didn't like it. I also do not like the mac computers themselves because I can't tweak them as much as I can a PC. The other thing is the selection of music software. Mac was once THE ONLY serious choice but those days are gone. PC is at least as stable as mac and from my experience is even more powerful than mac. I would only buy a mac for one reason: pthd. I'm not interested in mac for any other reason.

    thx,

    chris
     
  17. Alécio Costa - Brazil

    Alécio Costa - Brazil Well-Known Member

    Hi Chris!
    I bought an Athlon XP 2100 with a nice reasonably fast HD, 256MB RAM. It is really close to my G4 800, but I dunno if it would do audio so well. I am using Win2000.
    Where in th world do you live bud?
    :)
     
  18. Alécio Costa - Brazil

    Alécio Costa - Brazil Well-Known Member

    ooops! Toronto!
    I see now!
     
  19. 3dchris

    3dchris Active Member

    Alecio,
    I have a bad experience with Athlon as well, ehh... as a matter of fact I had a dual Athlon 2000+ MP rig that one day just stopped working without warning. I found out that both processors were burned...I didn't even overclock them..I still don't know why that happened but since then I decided to go only with Intel cause I never had a problem with it.
    How do you like being a moderator? :)

    chris
     
  20. Alécio Costa - Brazil

    Alécio Costa - Brazil Well-Known Member

    ya ask me if I do enjoy being a moderator?
     

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