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Under $600 multi channelDigital input what would you choose?

Discussion in 'Recording' started by EricUndead, Feb 8, 2008.

  1. EricUndead

    EricUndead Guest

    So here is what I think my choices are. I am some what limited by the operating system I run and mostly by my budget. I just need more inputs to my computer. I was wondering if anyone would give their opinion on this. Which one of these do you think is better?

    Presonus FP10 "Firepod",
    ,
    TASCAM FW-1082, or the
    Focusrite Saffire Pro

    Upgrading my home studio for recording my band and looking for more inputs to track Drums. I have:
    4 SM57's
    3 generic vocal mic's
    1 AKG D112
    1 AKG D88s
    1 Maudio Delta 24/96 (2 inputs)
    1 Mackie CFX12 (I know its a live board but I use it for Live recording right now)
    Ive been using Cool edit pro
    BX5a's for Monitors
    Fast Computer running XP64bit all above are compatible w/64bit (very important).

    Also Looking for a couple of condenser mics for all around use especially for use overhead drums. I will be searching more on this site for info on this question but my budget now is only probably 300 for both so Ill probably just need to wait. I was thinking about the TA2041 but undecided because its not 2 small diaphragm condensers but I could probably use the large diaphragm somewhere else.

    Thanks in advance for any help!
     
  2. EricUndead

    EricUndead Guest

    Im leaning tword the Presonus FP10 because it on sale for 399 and I have read nothing but good things about it here.

    Any one else use any of this gear?
     
  3. Drewslum

    Drewslum Active Member

    If you saved $100 you could just get the Firestudio. I'm happy with it cause I can add more pres if I ever get them.
     
  4. FlyBass

    FlyBass Active Member

    I've had good luck with my Presonus FirePod -- I haven't used any others from your list.
     
  5. EricUndead

    EricUndead Guest

    Thanks guys. I ended up buying the presonus FP10 (formaly the firpod). The firestudio didnt have 64bit drivers yet and I havnt read anything bad about presonus so I picked it up. If I get any decent recordings Ill post 'em up.
     
  6. bent

    bent No Bad Vibes! Well-Known Member

    OK, the Presonus Bluetube "mic pre" is junk.

    There, now you have read something bad about Presonus.

    Other than that, they're a respectable company - I can't complain, I've got quite a few pieces of Presonus gear.

    Enjoy the FP10!
     
  7. HansAm

    HansAm Active Member

    MOTU 8PRE! Cause i love them :p
     
  8. rainsong23

    rainsong23 Active Member

    So how many mics can you record simultaneously with the FP10 you bought? I was researching stuff yesterday, and I wasn't sure how many were actual mic lines or instrument lines? Could you say do bass drum, snare, two overheads, a couple of guitars, bass and vocals simultaneously?

    And does it come with any recording programs or anything?
     
  9. HansAm

    HansAm Active Member

    its 8 on each unit, both FP10 and MOTU 8pre. 8 MICs and 2 optical.

    You can daisy chain up to 4 units i think. for a total of 32 inputs at once.
     
  10. rainsong23

    rainsong23 Active Member

    The pre sonus have pres too built in from what I've read.

    I was looking at the Maudio Delta 10 and read on a site I'd have to buy pres to use it. Do you have to buy a preamp for each mic you use or is it some kind of multi preamp you plug into the system once?

    Just wondering how much extra money I'd have to spend if I decided to go the M audio way since that's compatible with protools?

    How about the motu stuff, either 8 pre or 24I/O? Do they have pres built in or not?
     
  11. EricUndead

    EricUndead Guest

    YES

    8 mic lines in w/ 2 spdif in and 8 line out 2 spdif out. 2 of the 8 mic lines in have instrument level inputs also but all 8 mic lines have pre's. It comes with cubase LE which I'm new to but seems to be pretty easy to figure out so far.

    Thanks, I saw one of those on craigslist and was pondering it. I decided to fix my room first. I'm thinking that was a good decision.
     
  12. rainsong23

    rainsong23 Active Member

    Anybody got opinions on Line 6 gear? There is a Line 6 Tone Port UX8 for about $650 at one of the music stores I visited in seoul the other day. Is it good stuff, junk? It does have pres in it I believe. How does it compare to the PreSonus FP10 which I think I was gravitating towards? Should I stick with the PreSonus or consider giving the Line 6 a try. I'll be buying a 17inch MacbookPro by the way, trying to get the 7200rpm harddrive and eventually upgrading the Ram to the maximum possible of 4 gig.
     
  13. AnomalyAlecB

    AnomalyAlecB Active Member

    What are the advantages of using a seperate mic-pre over a built-in one?
     
  14. tifftunes

    tifftunes Active Member

    Depends upon your intentions and how much you spend... The separate pres are "USUALLY," but not always, better quality than built-ins. The newest Mackie boards and Presonus pres, for example, are definitely good enough for all but the most demanding - at least for rock n roll. You'd prolly need better pres for quiet acoustic, or classical music though.
     
  15. tifftunes

    tifftunes Active Member

    BTW, I liked my 2 Firepods... sold 'em to move up to the Firestudio (needed the digital I/O) so I could also use a Focusrite 428 and Ampex 354 for different flavors.
     
  16. AnomalyAlecB

    AnomalyAlecB Active Member

    I've been hearing good things about the Firepods... and someone just recommended for me to get the Mackie Onyx in another thread.

    You said you needed the Firestudio for the digital I/O...
    soo...
    explain to me why that's so important. I think I know. But I don't trust myself in the presence of people that know x32453465 what I know.

    And I'm probably going to be buying the OO3R and running PT, if that adds any weight to this question.
     
  17. Boswell

    Boswell Moderator Distinguished Member

    Not really - it would just reset to zero all the advice you have received so far, that's all.

    With PT and the 003R, all you can use to expand the number of channels are pre-amps with ADAT outputs.

    Work out what you actually want in terms of number of channels and other capability, and come back here for further advice once you have decided.
     
  18. cathode_ray

    cathode_ray Active Member

    re: "...You said you needed the Firestudio for the digital I/O...
    I bet he said/meant FIREWIRE for digital I/O. It has faster transfer speed than more available USB2.
    Determine how many channels you want to record simultaneously. Most interfaces with>4 channels allow daisy-chaining units (8+8+ etc)
    Most units also come "bundled" with software - try it you may like it.
    There's life AFTER PT...
     
  19. AnomalyAlecB

    AnomalyAlecB Active Member

    I'm quite aware that there are more things on this Earth than PT. I didn't really want to delve down its path, but my friend went and bought the software, so I don't really want to argue over something I can't really debunk totally. As it is the "industry standard" I'm not going to be too mad to have to learn it, and it must be somewhat good. I don't really want to shell out the money for another program.

    I think I really won't be needing more than 6 channels at a time, that being for drumset. And that's when I actually get some decent overheads.

    And so for preamps, will I really need a preamp for each channel if I use the 003R? I'm really kinda fuzzy on the topic of preamps... If it is necessary, then by all means, tell me.
     
  20. EricUndead

    EricUndead Guest

    003R Directly from the Digidesign website

    * High-speed FireWire connectivity
    * 18 simultaneous channels of audio I/O
    * 24-bit/96 kHz resolution
    * 8 analog inputs, 8 analog outputs
    * 4 professional mic preamps; 48V phantom power enabled on channel pairs
    * 8 channels of ADAT optical I/O or two channels of S/PDIF optical I/O
    * 2 channels of S/PDIF digital I/O
    * 1 MIDI input, 2 MIDI outputs (16 channels in/32 channels out)
    * BNC Word Clock I/O
    * Dedicated studio monitor output, plus alternate control room output
    * Alternate Source input for external device monitoring
    * Dual headphone outputs


    Correct me if I'm wrong but it has 4 built in MIC pre amps. That means that if you need more then 4 MICs at one time then you will need separate pre amp/s
     

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