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Using outboards as inserts in DAW

Discussion in 'Recording' started by millionvalve, Feb 5, 2003.

  1. millionvalve

    millionvalve Guest

    Is there any way to get outboard hardware inserted into the audio chain? It would be *so* awesome to somehow insert an analog hardware compressor into the audio chain via my soundcard.

    This sounds perfectly reasonable, but I never hear about this. Am I high?

    Any info--anyone?

    Thanks-
    .nick
     
  2. mistals

    mistals Guest

    It depends on the software you're using, with Pro Tools, you can add inserts, you send the signal out a channel on your soundcard, other than the 2 you monitor your mix with,(like say channel 3 on soundcard) and into your comp or whatever, then return the signal thru an input on your soundcard creating the insert loop. Some programs may require you to record the signal returning to a seperate track to be applied to mixdown. If your software doesn't have inserts like that, you'll have to use an aux send or a bus routed to an ouput on your soundcard.
     
  3. millionvalve

    millionvalve Guest

    Thanks.

    No PT, just Cubase 5.1 and an AP 24/96 soundcard.

    I'll have to look at the routing possibilities.

    .nick
     
  4. lorenzo gerace

    lorenzo gerace Active Member

    Hi

    I'm on Pro Tools, and I use outboard gear quite regulary, it helps differentiate the sound from an all plug-ins mix; whatever system you use to hook up outboard processors, you'll have to be careful with latency: each time an audio file gets transfered from the inside of the computer to the external world (D/A transfer) it takes time (a few ms or in the best case a few samples), then it gets processed by the analog device, and it goes back to the computer for an A/D transfer (again a few ms or samples), so when it gets back to your virtual mixer it is delayed by the sum of the time those D/A and A/D conversions take to be executed; a simple fix is to slip the track ahead of its sync by a few ms so to compensate for that added by the converters, and even though it may seem a bit unhortodox it actually works.

    Hope this helps

    L.G.
     
  5. Opus2000

    Opus2000 Well-Known Member

    Nick
    Yes you can do this. Use a send to put the signal to a desire output. Use a seperate out from your audio card to the outboard effect. Put the out of the outboard effect into an input. Assign an input to a channel and you should be all set to go!
    Cheers
    Opus
     
  6. millionvalve

    millionvalve Guest

    Opus-

    I can do that in Cubase?

    All I can seem to do is patch VST effects in.

    .nick
     
  7. Lou

    Lou Active Member

    You should be able to do it in Cubase,The main thing is your interface . you would need at least 4 outputs to use outboard hardware. Asuming you use two of the outputs for monitoring .
     
  8. DonnyThompson

    DonnyThompson Distinguished Member

    Lou... not to tell you not to post - you are certainly welcome to do so with any topic on RO - but the thread you are replying to is now 12 years old. It's doubtful that the OP will read or respond, and also considering that they were never a member, but a guest. ;)

    Just giving you a head's up.
     
  9. Lou

    Lou Active Member

    Thanks it was my first day. Ill pay more attention .
     

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