That's is, it's between those 2 now. I've seen many "this pre vs. that pre" threads, here and on other forums, but yet these 2 battle it out. As far as I can tell, they have very similar specs and are similarily priced at around $1400. Many will say they're both excellent units and it's gonna come down to the sound. The reviews are very favorable for both of them, from what I've read elsewhere. I tried TapeOp but got no answers there, they were comparing a 2-610 with a 2108, while I wanted to know about these 2 transformer based units. So, there's $1400 to spend, you're eager to get your first good preamp, and you're not quite sure who gets your business first, UA or Vintech? Which makes a better, more versatile "my first good dual-channel pre"? Music style is mostly electronic (ie: Massive Attack-ish so vox and some live instrument recording alond with samples) but a damn good bass and guitar DI is certainly needed. Mic is a Studio Projects C1, though to be honest, I wouldn't mind investing in a better one eventually....TLM-103, AKC C-414? Thanks a lot for any advice.