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Virtual Soundcard/"ReWire" between applications

Discussion in 'Recording' started by Dominobrowny44, Apr 21, 2011.

  1. Is there some way that i can route audio from my DAW (thats using ASIO driver) to another kind of application that uses audio input/output? Example: I have found out a way to create a certain vocoder patch in Reason, and i want to be able to virtually connect the output from Reason to the input for Skype so i can use that as a mic in calls. I already know how to ReWire between DAW's, and i know there are "Virtual Soundcards" out there that can route audio between applications, but i want to know how to do this using the ASIO driver? (Mbox mini)
  2. hueseph

    hueseph Well-Known Member

    I have to ask. Why? What are you trying to achieve?
  3. greenbox

    greenbox Active Member

    hueseph, why not? As for what he's trying to achieve, he wants to record audio with his DAW, and pipe the output from the DAW to Skype's input.

    I also want to know how to do this, because it would let me play music over internet voice programs with better quality. Is that a good enough reason for you?

    Thanks in advance to anybody who helps!
  4. hueseph

    hueseph Well-Known Member

    Again, I have to ask why? There is no practical use for this. There are much faster ways to transfer ideas. There are websites and applications that are solely designed for web collaboration. This seems like a waste of time to me.

    No. Not a good enough reason. The answer in itself is defeating. Voice over ip apps use compression to minimize bandwidth. It's very likely that trying to stream music over Skype will slow it down immensely.

    What I'm still struggling to understand is, why would you want to stream over skype when there are so many other, better, faster ways to transfer data?
  5. greenbox

    greenbox Active Member

    Because my peers use Skype, among other programs, and don't want to get yet another utility that does the same thing.

    Why ask why? Don't get stuck in that type of thinking rut. There is practical use for this, and nothing's wrong with asking/hoping for a reasonable solution.
  6. hueseph

    hueseph Well-Known Member

    Well, you are asking this question on a Pro Audio forum. Is there anything Pro Audio about this question? Do you know any audio professionals who use Skype to transfer files?

    Try google. Try Jack or Asio4all .
  7. greenbox

    greenbox Active Member

    While the original poster's reason for asking is not something "Pro Audio", professional musicians like myself have the same question, with a different, professional reason.
    There is nothing that is not "Pro Audio" in that question. I (and every other musician I know) play music to people and ask for feedback. The question isn't about transferring files or one-way streaming. It's no trouble for me to set up a server for that, and everybody has a web browser and media player. The question is about a multiple-direction voice chat program where people can interrupt and give feedback. I know musicians who do this over regular phones, but an internet phone can always provide better quality.

    Thanks for the google suggestion, I never would have thought of that.
    Jack for Windows is hit-and-miss. I only see the ASIO device in some ASIO-capable programs, but it does work for the programs that can connect to it. Asio4all does not have that type of routing functionality, and I'm not aware that it ever did.
  8. hueseph

    hueseph Well-Known Member

    And yet here you are asking for an application. This there is nothing Pro Audio about this thread. If you want online collaboration there's Groove Zoo or Indaba. If you want to share your music, there's Soundclick, Soundcloud, Garageband, Broadjam, Myspace and any number of other web sites out there. With those at least they can hear the files in 16 bit 44.1k wav files instead of compressed to crap over IP.

    If you want secure listening set up an encrypted file to an FTP server, yousendit, whalemail, box.net or any other file storage site. Nothing on the web is truly secure.
  9. greenbox

    greenbox Active Member

    You must not understand the question if you take what I said out of context like that. To re-place that quote in context, I (a professional musician) am asking for a tool to do this so that my peers (non-professional-musicians) don't have to get a new tool.
    Interactive feedback is much more useful than recording something and serving a static file, then waiting for them to listen and comment in parts.
    If it's not clear, static file transferring with Soundclick, Soundcloud, Garageband, Broadjam, Myspace, FTP servers, yousendit, whalemail, box.net, or any other file storage site is not a part of the solution. Thanks for the suggestions, though.

    Nothing is not "Pro Audio" about wanting interactive feedback from peers without making them get a new tool. (excuse the double-negative)
  10. hueseph

    hueseph Well-Known Member

    I know what you're trying to do. It just seems like wanking to me. If you want people to listen to your music, don't you want them to hear it in the best quality possible? Ok, if they're far away sure you want direct feedback online or whatever. So let them hear it from a drop box at one of the online file sites like box.net. They can still communicate to you on skype. And they have the benefit of hearing the song as you intended it to be heard. They don't even have to have an account. You just send them a link and they listen shortly after they've downloaded it.

    If you want honesty though and you want real crit, post it to a site and let people hear it anonymously. Let them tell you anonymously. Otherwise you're just asking people to stroke your ego. Most friends will tell you they like it just because they are surprised that anyone they know has any talent whatsoever. Let them mull it over. See how long it lasts on their ipod playlist. That will tell you more than a first listen.

    In the meantime, here's a thread on what I was talking about. Namely online collaboration via Skype and trying to stream audio. collaberation on skype? - Guitar Noise Forums Now, I understand that these guys are NOT trying to rewire anything. They just want audio to stream through their system via skype. Apparently it is not a simple task. In which case I have to say again, why not use a file site? Most people are on broadband ISP now. Only the most remote places are still using dial up. A 5 mB file will take only seconds to download.

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