Discussion in 'Graphic / Parametric EQ' started by audiokid, Dec 29, 2014.
Pretty nice looking. I just sold two Pulse Techniques Pultecs for $6000. They are beautiful but I didn't see the value in them at mixing stage, which is why I really bought them. They are incredible.
I would love to try this out from Warm Audio though. Especially now that I have an ear for what I consider the benchmark of pultec reissues.
It would be fun to see how this $699 clone comes close.
Nice one Warm Audio.
to bad you had to sell them before you got a chance to a/b them side by side.
Indeed but I will not forget what it was that I liked about them.
I'm excited about this. OB eq is extremely underrated especially for tracking where it is most effective/practical Imo. And at that price point if it comes close to event the ballpark of a pultec, it's a fair price per channel, and realistic.
I would guess, without heaing it, that it would break up less flatteringly, have less noticable 'tube' effect on the sound, and probably a less robust low end. Things related to a less beastly power supply, and cheaper components. But I have a very limited understanding of the electronics aspect of it.
I would also guess, that it's probably workably close for most people who would want a pultec style OB, and would be tough to merit the significant price discrepancy. Nevermind the possibility of some basic upgrades that always get mentioned it seems, tubes, caps, and power supply, who knows. 500-1000 is an interesting price point. JDK, the api branch, has some interesting pieces in this price too. For mid level studios, like mine, where you need a fair amount of live inputs, I think three eqs of this nature that were say, decent/good would have a better impact on most average recordings, more than one unit that was say 10-15% more amazing. Again speculation on my part.
That said I think it's easy to hit the point of diminishing rturns on OB eqs and comps, especially if you don't track much, or its one or two ch at a time. Which really a channel strip, and a decent master bus processing set of OB is more than adaquete on paper at least.
exactly what the doctor ordered
I'm the dissenter on this one. I've worked with two different Warm models in the past, and I thought they both sounded "okay". Not bad, but not jaw-droppingly great, either.
FWIW, I think the same way about any Avalon gear I've ever worked with as well.
Okay. I'm finished with my review(s) now.
As you were.
I can't imagine these being remotely close to what Pulse Technique makes right now. Those are so quiet, so smooth and unnoticed between hard bypass and in. The shaping you can do with these was amazing. When you move the dials, they are so smooth in how they shape your goal. Its hard to mess up. The tubes add an addicting silk charm. They are special but expensive. $3000 for one channel. How does Warm do it for a 1/4 of the price.
Being said, I sold them because I can do everything they did "for me" better through Samplitude. I am curious about these though. They sure "look" nice.
Cheaper components, over seas labour, and since it's based on an established design, probably not a whole lot of RND, other than figuring out how to incorporate cheaper componets. That is not a cristisizm, it's actually what makes his thing interesting to me. A couple of cinemags, new caps, and if chips ( lol sorry evryone I talk whos techy always comments on power supplies, caps and chips.) could perhaps bring this thing to a new level.
LOL... yeah, but then you're not really using an actual Warm EQP, are you? You're using the Warm Audio EQP-KM. The KM stands for "Kyle Modified".
Who knows? You may end up becoming a studio standard name like Jensen or Lundahl.
"I'm using a Focusrite with Kyle preamps."
Has anyone surfing by this thread actually experienced the vintage or the reissue from Pulse Technique to these yet? I wonder if Warm would send me one?
I wonder what the pots cost in this compared to what I had.
What makes me wonder, I had a pot go on a UA 1176LN and it cost $80 CDN to replace it (not counting labour).
I have no idea about design costs, what it costs to build something or the difference between various parts.
There are 8 larger pots and switches , tube, tranny, the guts, labour, chassis, packaging, shipping and handling and room for dealer profit to boot! And this entire build is under $700.
But then there are companies like this, with pretty low pricing
I have never laid hand on a pultec. I've built it up so much il probably be dissapointed. I would wager it's just like all the other gear. The warm will probably get you 90% of the sound. That last 10% is had in a 'real thing/boutique copy' and at about 3-400% more money. There's usually something that can't be made up for in the real thing, but that said, provided there decent, I'd probably be happier w 4 channels of warm, than one pultec, from a versatility standpoint. I'd rather be able to eq Kik snare and over heads, vs just one channel. And really to build one from scratch, isn't gonna be a whole lot cheaper than the warm, the question is can you make a significantly better one for the same price.
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