Waves linear phase MASTER Bundle to improve my (junior)

Discussion in 'Mastering' started by Alécio Costa - Brazil, Feb 10, 2003.

  1. Alécio Costa - Brazil

    Alécio Costa - Brazil Well-Known Member

    Hi! I have asked something similar some time ago, but here it goes again...
    What about this Waves Master bundle? Is the equalizer a big leap from Q10?

    Wahat about the mukltiband compression? I have seen some people comment that it does not ^#$% the overal balance too much as C4 and MAster X...

    Seems it also comes with L2. I hate L1/L1=, is L2 software version really cool?

    Wahat about the dither?

    Also, in NYMiami area.. where can I find it for a good price?

    Since Spam is not nice, any info can be directly sent to studiodp@terra.com.br

    Many thanks in advance!
    Nice week!
  2. route909

    route909 Guest

    The EQ is top-notch. The best native eq I´ve heard. It´s an enormous leap compared to Q10. LinMB kicks serious ass, when used intelligently and is much cleaner than C4. The L2 is extremely transparent and comes with one of the best dithers in software. I did a shootout a couple of months ago, comparing different dithers, and the Waves dither seemed to win that one, compared to UV22, plain dither, Cool edit´s dither, etc. L1 does not match up to L2, but the dither is the same. The entire Masters Bundle oozes quality and sounds fabulous.
  3. Alécio Costa - Brazil

    Alécio Costa - Brazil Well-Known Member

    Have you guys compared this new Waves stuff with MC2000 from Mc DSP?

  4. lefty

    lefty Guest

    the linmb is the c4 but more transparent . and the L2 smokes the L1; matter of fact you ca get a much hotter and transparent with the L2
  5. Alécio Costa - Brazil

    Alécio Costa - Brazil Well-Known Member

    thanks Lefty!
    Anyone has the best pricing to indicate?
  6. Alécio Costa - Brazil

    Alécio Costa - Brazil Well-Known Member

  7. Alexey Lukin

    Alexey Lukin Guest

    1. L2 is not hotter than L1, but it's really more transparent.

    2. Dither of L2 is not similar to L1, it's completely different.

    3. For shootout of dithers - look at http://www.24-96.net/dither
  8. innerbooty

    innerbooty Guest

    I just got a project that I had mixed back from a very reputable mastering house here in NYC. The client had debated about whether to spring for professional mastering. They went for it, which we all thought was a good did since I had done the mixing, and had probably lost objectivity. I did some serious A/B comparisons between what they did, and what I had done on my own, primarily just using the L2. The final result was indistinguishable on several of the songs. The L2 is great. The C4 is great too, if you need to fix something in the mix, so I'm sure the Linear Band is even better...
  9. lefty

    lefty Guest

    Im a big fan of Waves period the Linbb and the mastering bundle gives you more gain without distortioon.,I have 102 wave plug ins and the mastering bundle is the best one ive got .., the only problem I have is my room.., everytime i master i have to go toa studio with a treated room
  10. JPH

    JPH Guest

    I really like the Waves Mastering bundel. The Multiband is so flexable in what you can do.
    The L2 is great but I don't hear the benifit of useing dither. I can;t tell any difference with it on or off.
  11. Alécio Costa - Brazil

    Alécio Costa - Brazil Well-Known Member

    good. have you guys tsted MC2000?
  12. Bassmannie

    Bassmannie Member

    I looked far and wide for the best deal on Waves plug-in bundles, and the best I've found is at B&H Photo/Video (they sell Pro Audio, too).

    B&H Photo/Video (and Pro Audio)

    Have fun!
  13. Macaroni

    Macaroni Guest

    Hi Alecio...

    Call Christian at Alto music in NY state...

    (845) 692-6922

    He'll beat any price.
  14. curious what is a good formula for decent mastering (L2 EQ C4 Etc.) ___ + ___ + ___= junior mastering.
  15. Jon Best

    Jon Best Active Member

    None, really. Some songs need EQ, some dynamics processing, occasionally someone needs the powerful surgery of multiband comp, often some limiting is necessary (almost always with loud stuff).

    Dither at the end, just after limiting. Other than that, do what the song needs, and don't use any more garbage than necessary.
  16. Alécio Costa - Brazil

    Alécio Costa - Brazil Well-Known Member

    It is cool to see this post comimg back! lol
    Anyone else?
    I would like to see Michael, Doug´s opinions about it.
    > :)
  17. Michael Fossenkemper

    Michael Fossenkemper Distinguished past mastering moderator Well-Known Member

    The waves stuff is really great. There is nothing out there that comes close for the money. The only step up from here is hardware and the price jumps very high.

    As far as a chain goes, it depends on what is needed. Sometimes nothing is needed and sometimes I throw everything including the kitchen sink at it. But the limiter and then dither should be the last things in your chain. Plugins are a little less touchy in their chain order but outboard can react very differently when changing their order. An eq can sound different even when applying no boost or cut just by changing where it is in the chain and the level going into and out of it. Try doing everything you can think of and learn how it reacts.
  18. Alécio Costa - Brazil

    Alécio Costa - Brazil Well-Known Member

    Thanks Michael. do you believe that some stuff I did using only Q10, Power dither and Master X were nominated for a brazilian award in 2000 competing with manleys/avalons/crane stuff? Of course it did not win, but was among the cool ones.
  19. Sunshine

    Sunshine Guest

    Sure something comes close for the money!


    ->try the Curve EQdemo

    Also, the LinEQ isn´t really nice sounding when substracting frequencies in the mid-region. Try it!

  20. Alécio Costa - Brazil

    Alécio Costa - Brazil Well-Known Member

    Hey Bernhard,
    what about some nice RTAS/AS/TDM plugins for PT Mix/Hd? Plese, count on me to be a beta tester if you plan to jump to this territory.

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