Weiss or Z-Sys

Discussion in 'Mastering' started by Cucco, Jul 4, 2005.

  1. Cucco

    Cucco Distinguished Member

    All you high-end mastering guru's -

    Which box do you prefer the Weiss or the Z-sys? I was looking at using Algorithmix linear EQs (and still might) but if I were to go external, I'm looking for something as smooth as a baby's arse and user friendly.

    I've had the opportunity to hear/use both, but not extensively and not side-by-side, so I'm hoping you guys have some input. FWIW, I really liked the ergonomics of the Z-sys stuff (Z-Q2).

    I'm also curious about their entry level EQ - the Z-qualizer?? Anybody have any dealings with this? In general, I'm a big fan of their stuff, so I can't imagine it's a POS.

    Thanks!

    Jeremy
     
  2. Cucco

    Cucco Distinguished Member

    BTW, before a lot of suggestions are made to the contrary, I'm trying to stay within the digital realm to minimize AD/DA conversions.

    Thanks!
     
  3. TrilliumSound

    TrilliumSound Active Member

    I am using the Weiss (eq1 MKII) and find it very simple to operate and sounds great. I used an old Z sys (z-q1) and find it pretty cool but a bit less easy than the Weiss. I think it is hard to beat.

    Richard
     
  4. JerryTubb

    JerryTubb Guest

    I use the Z sys EQs almost daily, been very pleased with the results.

    Ergonomically they could be a little better, but they're quite usable.

    The price is more reasonable than the Weiss.

    But I have noticed the "Big Name" Mastering labs use the Weiss.

    Does it sound better... I dunno... might just be that name brand appeal. 8)
     
  5. Michael Fossenkemper

    Michael Fossenkemper Distinguished past mastering moderator Well-Known Member

    The weiss is a great eq, so is the algo plug. nothing beats the weiss as far as interface in outboard digi eq's. the weiss can be a great surgical tool. the z-sys eq's are great broad brush stroke eq's. very musical sounding. the nice thing about the weiss is that it has 2 modes. more more "musical" one more surgical. The z-sys is a bit more affordable. between the 2, I choose the weiss. But i know a lot of guys that are very happy with the z-sys. Both companies will send a demo unit if you want, and if you have an credit card with a large limit.
     
  6. iznogood

    iznogood Guest

    one more vote for the weiss.... best digital eq i heard...

    the only digital eq i want...
     
  7. Thomas W. Bethel

    Thomas W. Bethel Well-Known Member

    I own both and both have there uses. The Weiss is a fantastic unit but so is the Z-Sys. If I had to only have one which would I choose. Probably the Weiss becasue I love the interface and the sound. The Z-Sys is a very good unit but the HUI leaves a bit to be desired but I have used both in sessions.

    Hope this helps.
     
  8. Ammitsboel

    Ammitsboel Member

    The first thing I would like to say is that there is no way around a natural EQ sound other than going analog. But it certainly depends on what you consider the greatest loss.

    The Zsys sounds like "warm digital", it's like a digital pultec with more control. It has a slight gain problem though if you use the master gain more than +/-1db.
    The Weiss sound more transparrant. I consider the price fair and not to high when comparing to the Zsys.

    I think the Weiss is useable on many different projects where the Zsys has more color and is therefore more limited in this area.

    Best Regards
    Henrik
     
  9. lowland

    lowland Guest

    I had the z-Qualizer for a while and eventually sent it back: great sound, but dodgy user interface with jittery encoders. To be fair, as I usually say when this comes up, z-Systems are aware and working on it so the z-Qualizer you buy today may be fine.

    As an alternative suggestion, in recent months I've found the digital (as distinct from the convolved) EQ in my Sintefex 2000 to be quite outstanding - plus it costs a lot less than a Weiss and has a number of other tricks too. The general effect of the digital EQ is very z-Systems-like to my ears, at its best as a broader brush, but what a brush! http://www.sintefex.com
     
  10. Ammitsboel

    Ammitsboel Member

    I've tried the Sintefex once and it strikes me as a lesser user interface than the Zsys, so I don't quite follow you?
    My Zsys isn't Jitterish in regards to the user interface.
    But I still like the weiss better.

    ...the guys on the pictures all look kind of sad? :lol:
     
  11. lowland

    lowland Guest

    Which z-Systems box do you have, Henrik?

    I was referring to the zq-3, also known as z-Qualizer. If you have one of those and no value jumping or roughness then you may be one of the lucky ones, or possibly have a new unit with the problem tamed.

    For me in my setup, the Sintefex UI works just fine.
     
  12. Ammitsboel

    Ammitsboel Member

    I have the ZQ2
     
  13. joe lambert

    joe lambert Distinguished Member

    Zsys is very good. I believe Wiess makes the best sounding digital EQ.
     
  14. Ammitsboel

    Ammitsboel Member

    Then why don't you have it?
    Do your multichannel Zsys sound better than the Zq2?
     
  15. joe lambert

    joe lambert Distinguished Member

    I do.
    I have the Weiss EQ1-MK2 EQ. I also have a whole modular rack of Weiss gear.
     
  16. iznogood

    iznogood Guest

    extreme exposure to silver wire can cause blindness !!! :shock:

    (look at the lower right corner at truetone)
     
  17. joe lambert

    joe lambert Distinguished Member

    ??

    Trutone
     
  18. iznogood

    iznogood Guest

    i referring to the fact that ammitsbøl is exposed to alot of silver wire....

    and that it must have caused blindness as he cannot see the weiss on your homepage...

    i was trying to be funny
     
  19. Cucco

    Cucco Distinguished Member

    Hey, we'll have none of that monkey business around here :lol:

    Okay, so everyone seems to be weighing in very heavily towards the Weiss, but the obvious point is that it costs quite a bit more. Is it truly worth the difference in price? Or is it the dream gear and the Z-Sys is still a viable alternative.

    Don't worry, I'm not fishing for "the answer I want to hear." If the answer is a resounding "WEISS," I'll go buy the Weiss. Again, I have heard them both, but not had the opportunity to use them extensively. The bad news is that I couldn't A/B them, so while I'm personally comfortable with either of them, I definitely respect the opinion of those who are wiser than me.

    BTW - Joe:

    I hope you don't mind, but I've printed out pictures of your new studios and take them into the bathroom with me when I'm bored. :wink: Nice Digs!!

    Jeremy
     
  20. joe lambert

    joe lambert Distinguished Member

    Wow,
    I don't know how to respond to that last comment. So I won't ;)
     

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