I've been looking at a lot of pro mastered stuff, and I notice these guys get some serious level without that trademark L2 distortion. Not that I expect everyone to be forthcoming as this is regarded as secret in some circles, but how are you guys achieving these kind of levels? Does the compression and multiband comps play a large role in achieving overall volume for you? Searched, but found no real answers. Anyone clipping converters? I've heard some guys do this, and I wondered if it was true. Maybe it's an old trick that is no longer used. Just curious as I'm a recording\mixing engineer, not a ME. I watched Eddy at Oasis use a Brick wall limiter plug on my mixes to get the level way up, but it was a plug I've never seen before. Made the L2 sound like a toy. This is not a question of volume wars, I know the whole bit. I'm just wondering how these guys get these extreme hot levels without distorting the mix completely. I can't get the RMS above - 15 without destroying the drums.