WHAt kind of software

Discussion in 'Tracking / Mixing / Editing' started by Vellshank, May 19, 2009.

  1. Vellshank

    Vellshank Guest

    right now im using cool edit pro its cool but what is a better and easyer program i should get im new im usng a 4 channel mixer i just need some advise i want a program were i can record a already good sound but can mix it better and add preamps or should i stick with what i have and just use it anyone have any advise
     
  2. Codemonkey

    Codemonkey Well-Known Member

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  3. Guitarfreak

    Guitarfreak Well-Known Member

    And maybe something that will teach you spelling, punctuation, and capitalization. Just a thought.
     
  4. Codemonkey

    Codemonkey Well-Known Member

    Guitar Freak It's No Worse Than People Who Waste Their Time Doing This Lol. Imagine The State Of Their Shift Key & How Long Must It Take To Get Anywhere.
    I mean does it not make so much more sense to type all lowercase? With the occasional push of shift.
     
  5. Vellshank

    Vellshank Guest

    K ASS HOLE NOW IT ALL CAPS LIKE IT ^#$%ing MATTERS Im not in school right now. So are you gonna help me or not, or you just going to be one of those smart ass forum guys who just bitch all day??
     
  6. Codemonkey

    Codemonkey Well-Known Member

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    in case you missed it the first time

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    this topic has been covered and plenty of suggestions have already been made

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    FWIW I'm not in school either but I find it helps to speak correctly. Imagine if I bust out the weegie patter on yous aw yed be total baffelt ah mean wut am ah oan aboot ya forinners

    See what a difference it makes using proper sentences? Even makes you sound older and more mature.

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  7. iamfrobs

    iamfrobs Guest

    I vote to ban him.

    That was unprovoked.
     
  8. Mudman

    Mudman Active Member

    Did this thread get removed? The link just takes you to the main menu.
     
  9. TheJackAttack

    TheJackAttack Distinguished Member

    We upgraded the forum software twice since then. If I remembered which thread Code linked to I would fix it but I don't. This topic comes up about once a week so if you use the search engine you will find lots of threads. The short answer is that all the full featured DAW programs have a learning curve. The "easy to learn" stuff tends to be limited so very few folks learn parallel paths unless it's required. Reaper is cheap and fabulous for multi tracking. The pdf manual is superb and it is the lowest load on a computer. If you are a Mac then Garage Band is the cheapest way to get started since it is already on your computer. All the other major players are about the same and it will depend on what kind of workflow you are comfortable with.
     
  10. Mudman

    Mudman Active Member

    Thanks Jack, much appreciated! I found this thread through search and you're right, quite a few threads, but your post above was very helpful. To be honest, before joining this forum I only knew of two software brands, Pro Tools and Cakewalk. I was a bit bowled over to learn there are so many! I'm also starting from scratch in putting together all the hardware (not counting computers)...am I correct in assuming that any software will work with any hardware?
     
  11. TheJackAttack

    TheJackAttack Distinguished Member

    Usually most DAW softwares will work with any computer truly able to handle audio/video production. Protools is THE most finicky. Many here use it. Many here do not. If you do choose PT then make sure your computer matches what Avid says is kosher.
     
  12. Mudman

    Mudman Active Member

    Well with the realization that there are alternatives, I may look around some before settling on PT. I've been recorded a ton but I've never done the recording so it's all new to me. Getting PT may be like hopping behind the controls of a jet fighter when I really should be on bike!
     
  13. TheJackAttack

    TheJackAttack Distinguished Member

    To be honest, PT has not caught up to most of the major players in terms of features so if you use the jet analogy it ain't a stealth fighter. It still has plenty of horse power to do the job however. And if you score for movies and small screen it is with one other (Sequoia) the dominant player.
     
  14. Mudman

    Mudman Active Member

    It seemed like all the engineers I've worked with went with PT when they switched from analog to digital. That's why I thought it was the professional weapon of choice. In my recent reading I've seen Cubase come up rather a lot and Remy seems to really like Sony Vegas.
     
  15. TheJackAttack

    TheJackAttack Distinguished Member

    Cubase, Nuendo (very high end), Logic, Sonar, Sony Vegas has wonderful video implementation, Adobe Audition, Studio Live, and I would include Reaper even if it doesn't have a file editor. There are many others that are more specific for application like Ableton Live etc, but stick with a full featured program. Many engineers use a couple of programs one of which might be PT so keep that in mind as well. As a relative beginner I would stick with a single program for a while.
     
  16. Mudman

    Mudman Active Member

    Yes, that makes sense to me too...and probably something with big red cartoon buttons! As long as it has multi-track capability. I don't really need MIDI.
     
  17. Mudman

    Mudman Active Member

    What's the general feeling about recording packages such as can be bought here?
     
  18. RemyRAD

    RemyRAD Well-Known Member

    Here is a cost effective suggestion.

    Purchase yourself one of those approximately $500 8 input computer interfaces. You have many to choose from in that price range. Then purchase yourself one of the Avid/Digi M box micro or, mini. The 8 track interface will come bundled with some lovely multitrack software. The micro/mini will come with ProTools 8. This will allow you the most power & flexibility you could possibly hope for. You won't need to purchase any additional plug-ins until much later in the game.

    The alternative multitrack interface will allow you to cut simultaneous tracks along with the mini providing a ninth input, also into the bundled software of the multitrack interface provided it has ASIO support. This will allow monsterful capabilities. Just know that there generally isn't a 1 stop software package that we are exclusive to. The one as there isn't a one-stop software package that does everything we want it to yet.

    Audition/Vegas/ProTools user
    Mx. Remy Ann David
     
  19. Mudman

    Mudman Active Member

    Hi Remy! Thanks for the advice. So what are people losing out on by using just one piece of software, like Reaper for instance? Is the idea behind the $500 computer interface that you won't then need a mixer? Isn't that still necessary if you want to have multiple inputs?
     
  20. TheJackAttack

    TheJackAttack Distinguished Member

    A mixer is only important for live work.

    Your interface records as many individual channels as you purchased (on the interface itself) into multitrack software of your choice. An MBox3 will get you four tracks total. An RME Fireface 800 will get you 10 analog inputs, 2 spdif inputs, 16 ADAT Toslink inputs. Of course in the latter you only have the four onboard mic preamps and you have to have outboard gear to feed the rest. In the case of the MBox it has two mic preamps and two line inputs to be fed by outboard.

    Now, you can record one or two channels at a time and stack up as many channels as you want to muddy the waters with. It doesn't have to be all at once. And, some mixers can also do dual duty as an interface. The cheap USB mixers do not as they will only grab the main fader and not individual channels.

    First step. Decide how many simultaneous inputs you really need. Then decide if you have to have a mixer as the interface (if you do you can't probably beat the Studio Live). Now worry about what software you need. As Remy has said, there is NO one stop program to fit all persons.
     

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