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what recording console to buy

Discussion in 'Pro Audio Equipment' started by seti, Nov 9, 2003.

  1. seti

    seti Guest

    Please help me decide what console to get

    My goal is to capture magic supernatural moments LOL serious!

    Coming from a dm 24 I liked the way I could digitally route signals all over the place inside the dm 24 but I’m not happy with the onboard comps and eq + the constant breaking. I have been updating my setup over the years and I think I’m ready
    for a semi serious console.

    Kind of stuck right now because there are certain routing options I like about digital
    but I love the sound of analog consoles for sure! I got about 10k to spend on a new console.

    I’m leaning towards a decent digital console because they are new with warranty and should not require maintenance.

    So my options the Sony DMX-r100, DM-2000 or wait for Mackie X
    or go analog such as a ghost or an old Trident?

    I want to stop updating and make some serious music.

    I have heard over and over that 2 inch tape is superior to digital recordings at even the highest sample rates.

    Great more money

    Over the years I have learned the hard way to buy the good stuff and watch out for mass produced crap.

    This is why another part of me is thinking a good old well made analog console might be the best option in the long run.

    I don’t mean to ramble its a complex situation.

    I’m stressed out all this shipping back and forth to Hawaii is killing me!
  2. Sebatron

    Sebatron Well-Known Member

    Dec 22, 2002
    wow man , you need help.

    ...you see that's the thing.It never should be.

    Just get down and WROCK. :tu:
  3. seti

    seti Guest

    sorry for all the typos im a horrible typer
  4. seti

    seti Guest

    never should be a complex situation ??

    Things can get pretty complex in this day and age!

    thanks for help anyway
  5. realdynamix

    realdynamix Well-Known Member

    Feb 23, 2001
    :) Set, on average how many tracks are you recording at one time?

    I like simple going in and save the complex for editing and mixing. I have my instruments into different tracks on my console. I generally record my own music, so it may be 2 pairs of stereo tracks at one time into my DAW, I am using the console pre's, but am hoping to get a Sebatron soon.

    All my monitoring is done out of the DAW. Anytime I want an instrument up mic/midi boxes, I just mute what I'm not using on the console and keep the vibe flowing. I will do the same with the outboard pre's, and maybe parts of the console to help with routing signals to the line in's of them and do the mic's direct into them.

    My DAW is controlled remote with a nice huge laptop display of all transport, locator, track selection, and record ready switches that I need at a point and click. Then I just Rock on.

    Like you, I can let it get too complex ;)

  6. Sanity Inn

    Sanity Inn Guest

    Hey there ,,

    I think " what" you're trying to do sounds pretty cool ...

    I just read about the RADAR set up,, and it looks good,,,

    I guess you would want your set up MOBILE?? if so this ext, harddisk set up may be more suited to a fussy DAW,

    on other hand,, Samplitude and Sequoia both have Video capablilities to sync to audio incase you want that too,,

    so in short, go for the cleanest AD/DA converters you can find, with a convinient recording storage,,, and eliminate any speculation that any anomalies of sound come from the gear beeing used,,

    also, not sure if you need plug ins like the rest of the music makers, but this is a plus if you dont,

    maybe one really good hiss removal type utilty,,

    and ofcourse the mic you chosse will help also,,

    either way , I think what your going to do is cool, and i hope my limited 2 cents ( canadian thats' 1.6 cents lol) helped a little

    peace and good luck

    Sanity Inn

    Logic rules,emotion wins
  7. Sanity Inn

    Sanity Inn Guest

    disregard that lol
    1 minute you're talking about recording supernatural sounds, then music ???

    soor if i misread you looooong post

  8. seti

    seti Guest

    Let me clarify

    setup #1 dose 2 inch tape and a trident 80 sound way better than
    setup #2 a sony dmx-r100 using external pres, great external conveters and using dangerous bus for summing..

    does setup # 2 get me into the same league as #1?????
  9. Sebatron

    Sebatron Well-Known Member

    Dec 22, 2002

  10. seti

    seti Guest

    Thanks for the replies
  11. timstoel

    timstoel Guest

    Try a Tascam MX-2424 (however many of them you need, they are 24 tracks each). Do all your onsite recording on those through the preamp and converters of choice, run AES/EBU or ADAT Lightpipe into the 2424s. Bring the 2424's home and do your mixing on a nice analog board, with outboard effects. Mixdown to analog tape or other media of the mastering house's choice. The other option is use the Baby Oxford, which saves a conversion at mixdown, but forces the use of digital effects which in my experience sound flat, but they are making progress every day. The choice comes down to analog vs. digital, and that is a choice you need to make on your own.

    Tim Stoel

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