I've been searching for a product that can give me some good think bass lines, punchy kick drums, real snares, and some satisfying instruments (strings, brass, flutes and synths). I make Hip Hop/Rap beats, and I'm looking for a product that will give me a Main Stream sound. So far I've examined: Roland MV-8000 (found out I would have to add my own sounds to enjoy it) Akai MPC 2000XL (Found out same thing as the Roland) Roland MC-909 (seemed pursuasive playing with it in the store, but I read reviews saying that it's not really flexible to use in making rap and R&B beats; but I did like the quaility of the percussion) Yamaha Motif Rack Module (Read reviews that would make me buy it now, but a little curious about the drums. Not sure how they sound, but for the price I may get it anyway.) E-MU Phat somethin' (I don't know, I just looked at it, and wasn't sure what it was capable of) Please if you have any other suggestions please list them. If you like any that have been mentioned, let me know which to go with. If you have any advice, I'm willing to listen. Thanks to those who do reply.