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What to get next, better 8ch preamp or better stereo preamp

Discussion in 'Preamps & Processing' started by hymne01, Sep 5, 2004.

  1. hymne01

    hymne01 Guest

    I'm wondering what the next buy would be for my studio..

    Here's my setup:

    Pentium IV 2,4Ghz
    Win 2000 pro
    1 Gb ram
    120Gb disk

    RME Multiface
    Behringer ADA8000 8channel pre amp w adat
    BEhringer headphone Amp
    Behringer minimixer (monitoring only)
    Samson Resolv 65a monitors+Sub
    Audix Drum mics (D1,D2,D4,D6, mt1290hc)
    T-Bone sc450 for vocals and overheads

    I'm not sure if I should get a better 8ch pre like Focusrite Octaptre+adat
    or a better extra Stereo pre for vocals,...

    The drum sound good with behringer, vocals not always.

    oh, and I'm testing a Neumann tlm193 that I could purchase for about 450 Euros, good buy?

    Thanks a lot-
  2. maintiger

    maintiger Distinguished Member

    Dec 3, 2003
    Whittier, California, USA
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    get the Neumann, that will improve your vocal sound a lot right there. I don't know if the octapre will sound that much better than the behringer 8000 though.
  3. inLoco

    inLoco Active Member

    Jul 25, 2004
    buy the mic! for good pres you need good bucks...
    either you have around 3000 euros for the pres or the diference won't be so much!
    but you can also check mackies tables! the pres may be good!
  4. hymne01

    hymne01 Guest


    I'll get the Neumann.

    Mackie ONYX 800R 8ch pre has same quality as mackie tables ?

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  5. Kurt Foster

    Kurt Foster Distinguished Member

    Jul 2, 2002
    77 Sunset Lane.
    It's supposed to be better ... I don't think the Behringer pre is much worse off than your run of the mill Mackie ... it's just that Mackie products are built better (they don't spontaneously combust in the rack). Quality of the ONYX is not a know factor .. no one I know of (that I trust) has heard them yet ..

    I'm not sure of the exchange rate but that doesn't sound right ... $3K will get a great pre but very good ones can be found for less. A great river MP1NV is about $1100 USD. If you shop the used market you will find a lot of good pres for much less than 3K ..
  6. Markd102

    Markd102 Well-Known Member

    Apr 24, 2001

    I was warned off the TLM-193. A pro friend told me to avoid it.
    I got the TLM-103 and love it.
    I haven't heard the 193 myself so I'm only going on his educated advice.

    But I agree that for what you would have to spend, a quality mic will lift your recordings higher than a better preamp.
  7. hymne01

    hymne01 Guest

    I just tried the TLM193 on female vocals.
    They sound great,but I need to boost the behringer pre to its max to get some signal..
    That means a better pre, as behrinher gets noisy when boosted up...
  8. hymne01

    hymne01 Guest

    my cheap T-bone SC450's get a lot more signal.
    tlm seems to be for crucial low volume sources...
  9. inLoco

    inLoco Active Member

    Jul 25, 2004
  10. Kurt Foster

    Kurt Foster Distinguished Member

    Jul 2, 2002
    77 Sunset Lane.
    OK I wuz corn-fused by the title of the thread ...

    I personally think pres can in some cases, make more difference than anything else, even mics.

    The JLM TMP 8 is $2250 usd ... 8 channels mic pres and directs with all the features ... This is a very good mic pre.
  11. mikE@THECAVE

    mikE@THECAVE Guest

    i think i'd get 4 channels of one and 4 ''another flavor'' of something different

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