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What's the harm in this?

Discussion in 'Recording' started by Sport, Jul 19, 2009.

  1. Sport

    Sport Guest

    Using SX3. I'm mixing a project now in that has several tracks going into the red constantly. Is there anything wrong with CRTL+A and reducing the gain on all clips by about 8db and making up for it with a push on the master bus?
     
  2. TheJackAttack

    TheJackAttack Distinguished Member

    Making up for what? In the digital world you should NEVER be in the red. For most beginning "mixers" and mixes, pulling down faders really is the first step to clarity. Compressors and limiters are useful when used in a limited fashion.
     
  3. Sport

    Sport Guest

    There is a TON of automation in this song that I don't have the time to correct. Instead of worrying about overages can't I just reduce all the tracks to keep the ratio the same?
     
  4. TheJackAttack

    TheJackAttack Distinguished Member

    It'll stay pretty close and be a good place to start.
     
  5. Davedog

    Davedog Distinguished Member

    If you are mixing a project that you didnt record, and you're doing it for money and they have provided you the tracks with lots of overs, then you need to take the time to repair them as best you can and charge them accordingly.

    If you took on a project without hearing it first and then explaining what needed to be done to get the right levels, then you need to negotiate this to the client. If you're doing this for a friend and its free then take the time and make it good.

    Digital overs will kill any semblance of quality.

    If its analog overs then I wouldnt worry too much about it.

    Also, when you solo up the tracks, can you hear them clip?
     
  6. MadMax

    MadMax Well-Known Member

    Yup, just trim all the tracks by the same amount and you're done.

    But like DD, I'm wondering why you "don't have the time to correct" the very things that a mixer is supposed to.
     
  7. Cucco

    Cucco Distinguished Member

    Define "into the red." Do you mean it's clipping and going past -0dBFS or do you mean it's in that warning area just before clipping?

    Also, did you record this yourself, or are you mixing it for someone else?

    If you did, the place you'd be best served in fixing this is at the first gain stage (aka, your mic preamps). You can do just as MadMax says and it won't have a profound impact on the sound. But I too question the time factor....I'm working on mixing a project right now with around 40 tracks - all with automation (mostly unnecessary!) and yes, while it takes a bit of time, the mix will be better in the long run if I take the time to do it right to begin with.

    Cheers-
    J.
     
  8. Sport

    Sport Guest

    I'm just gonna put on a pot of coffee and mix again. I'm not under the gun, just being lazy and wanting a fast fix :wink:
     

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