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Where to look for a console?

Discussion in 'Pro Audio Equipment' started by anonymous, Apr 30, 2005.

  1. anonymous

    anonymous Guests

    At the moment I use an Allen & Heath 16 channel mixer. When I go to upgrade to a console. What brand names are the best? (anything under $30,000)
    And where are some of the best places to look for used consoles, or even new ones?
     
  2. AudioGaff

    AudioGaff Well-Known Member

    Look in the back of any Mix mag. Plenty of brokers selling real recording consoles to choose from.
     
  3. John Stafford

    John Stafford Well-Known Member

    Sometimes you can get all sorts of interesting stuff at
    http://www.analogjapan.com

    I couldn't get on to the website today so I don't know their current inventory, but I'd keep an eye on it. I remember seeing a Neve 8108 for $230,000, but they sometimes have smaller desks as well.

    If you don't find anything you want, I'd be inclined to keep checking the site unless you find something better. I don't see a suitable emoticon for envy, but at least this one is green :? !

    Good luck with the search!

    John Stafford
     
  4. Kurt Foster

    Kurt Foster Distinguished Member

    Luke,
    The gear brokers in the back of the Mix mag will charge top dollar .... you're not going to get the best deal from them.

    Check out Blevins Audio in Nashville for deals on MCIs http:// ....

    Wes Dooley sells older Sony boards http://www.wesdolley@aea.com

    Pro Audio Marketplace .....

    http://www.proaudiomarketplace.com

    listings for consoles, recorders, outboard, mics etc. I found a lot of very good deals in there.
     
  5. LittleDogAudio

    LittleDogAudio Active Member

    Well, I have an old MCI and I can't recommend it. It's noisy, expensive to power and always needs attention. I basically use it as a desktop for my keyboards and mice.

    I would look into a Trident 65 or a Neotek IIIc. Both are bitchin' rock-n-roll boards and are pretty simple to maintain.

    As to where to find them. That's a tough one. I wouldn't trust Ebay on a large purchase like this. Althuogh if you find one that didn't sell and you contacted the owner you may find a deal. But, only if you can drive to it and run signal through all channels.

    You may want to consider the Soundcraft Ghost, for the money (about 5 K) you can get a brand new board that has great sound and no issues, that an older board will have.

    Boards to stay away from: Otari, Neve 8108's both are hogs and will stop your session in it's tracks. I've been there many times with these boats.


    My .02

    Chris
     
  6. anonymous

    anonymous Guests

    Thanks guys! ALL of you are the best!!!! 8)
    I love this d^mn site! Just because of guys like you guys 8) 8) 8) 8)
     
  7. anonymous

    anonymous Guests

    this link was a dead end? :roll:
     
  8. anonymous

    anonymous Guests

    Chris, what do you think about, if I look at the Midas? I have the opinion that the Midas is better than the Ghost. Right? Wrong? :?
    Need your .02cents
     
  9. Davedog

    Davedog Distinguished Member

    You can find a used Ghost for under 4K, do the mods on several channels and the mains section and for under 10K you'll have a board that sounds like a lot more. Basically you're gonna want a low maintainence console with the best sound.Tridents are great. Low mileage Sony's..With a Sony, theres a bunch of different boutique builders who make plug-in upgrades for pres,EQ,compressors...Hardy,Forsselle,others.All really great stuff.So you can kinda customize your console for the kind of work you do most of.
     
  10. anonymous

    anonymous Guests

    Now DaveDog! :D
    Expert after Expert! What more could you ask for at RO? :p
    So the Ghost are really the zhit? And i was thinking about going with a Midas :oops:
     
  11. Davedog

    Davedog Distinguished Member

    research is your friend,my friend...

    here are some links...what I dont mind about a broker is they can know particulars about the type of room it came from, the number of owners, whether its been serviced,etc...sometimes they service the consoles themselves and while you may pay a bit more its sometimes better...not always....

    Oceanaudioinc.com
    Primalgear.com
    Soundbroker.com
    Odysseyprosound.com

    As for Midas vs.Ghost its going to be a difference for your ears only.
     
  12. LittleDogAudio

    LittleDogAudio Active Member

    Hey ITGA, give Dave Malekpuor a call over at Professional Audio Design. Tell him Chris from Little Dog sent you.
    Dave is a stand-up guy and if there's a good quality older console on the used market, he should know about it.

    Hope this helps,

    Chris
     
  13. anonymous

    anonymous Guests

    Will do! :cool:
     
  14. AudioGaff

    AudioGaff Well-Known Member

    I agree with the Da-dog. You pay more for a broker, but a good one will stand behind your purchase. They deserve to make a little money.

    If I was in the market for an analog board again, I'd likely first be looking for a used Neotek just as I had before. Great sound and value. In fact I think Neotek is back in businees making one of the last newer models, the Elan I think. You might find some info or a link from the sytek website.
     
  15. anonymous

    anonymous Guests

    Anybody else like the Neotek's? They look sweet. FYI-- I want to do mostly harder rock and metal.
    What I dont want to do is have to upgrade to something else years down the road.
     
  16. AudioGaff

    AudioGaff Well-Known Member

    Upgrading is part of life and a normal expected thing that must happen for any succesful business. Having said that, most of the more modern Neotek's will serve you well for many years to come. Assuming you will be able to find parts and someone to maintain it.
     
  17. TornadoTed

    TornadoTed Guest

    So what modifications can you do to a Soundcraft Ghost?. I have a friend who owns one and was thinking of upgrading.
     
  18. o2x

    o2x Active Member

    You could try a couple of European dealers.

    Try http://www.larking.com

    (Tony Larking of TL Audio sells lots of used consoles from SSL/NEVE/AMEK/DDA/MTA/TRIDENT/SOUNTRACS etc etc)

    or

    Funky Junk: http://www.proaudioeurope.com

    both of these will happily ship to the US
     
  19. tedcrop

    tedcrop Guest

    creationaudiolabs.com for ghost mods. I have not done it but it sounds interesting. What mods were you speaking of Davedog? I just bought a new ghost and I am waiting on it.
     
  20. Neve Sidecar

    Hello Folks !. I bought some Neve 1073's recently from http://www.analogjapan.com
    i am looking for a BCM frame now. Any information most welcome.
    Thanks and Peace
     

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