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Which mic is closest to a U47 and affordable?

Discussion in 'Recording' started by keano, Nov 17, 2007.

  1. keano

    keano Guest

    I have actually heard the SMB7 is a poor mans U47 is this true?

    I know the Soundelux E47 is a great reproduction but it is $4K, Peluso 22 47 which is $1400-1900 depending on tube or solid state.
     
  2. moonbaby

    moonbaby Mmmmmm Well-Known Member

    Yeah, the SM7b is a "poor man's U47"...ssssshhh, don't tell everyone,they'll want one themselves...
    My "poor man's U47" is the A-T 4047...
     
  3. keano

    keano Guest

    AT 4047 hmmm never thought of that.
     
  4. Davedog

    Davedog Distinguished Member

    FET or tube?


    None of the mics which have purported similarities to a U47 is going to be considered a "poor mans' mic".

    Your post indicating the Soundelux is proof of that.


    I also LOVE the 4047 and though I dont think it has the Neumann 'sheen' it is a very very usable tool and with the right preamp is truly a remarkable sounding mic and not just for the price....Try one on a GT ViPre.
     
  5. kittonian

    kittonian Guest

    Take a look at the Peluso 2247SE (same as the 2247LE with the Red American tube instead of the Telefunken tube). It's a very impressive recreation of the U47 and comes with a flight case, 7 conductor cable, power supply, shock mount and wooden case.

    You can check it out at our website. Click on Peluso on the front page and choose 2247LE (the SE is what the menu defaults to in the pricing and is the one I recommend every day). We've even got a nice movie about it.

    If you are looking for the recreation of the "studio U47" that has been famous in recording studios for so many years you want the SE/LE not the short body. The short body 47 is a recreation of the U47 that the German Radio stations used for broadcast purposes and is great for voiceovers but it is not nearly the same thing as the real deal 2247SE.

    Hope that helps!
     
  6. Cucco

    Cucco Distinguished Member

    Mic debates aside, what's the reason you're looking for a 47? Have you used one before and liked it, thus desire to buy a similar mic?

    If I had $10K to spend on mics (and I do from time to time), I wouldn't even consider a 47 or a clone. Considering that there are at least 100 other mics on the planet that I could buy, would do a wonderful job and cost a mere fraction of the cost of a 47 or clone....

    For example...if I had $10k and a project studio or even "low-end" to mid-level commercial studio focusing on rock, country, rap, etc....here would be my list of mics:

    5 SM57s ($500)
    2 SM58s ($200)
    EV RE20 ($400)
    2 Sennheiser MD421s ($650)
    Soundelux U195 ($1100)
    Blue Bluebird (just found it and love it!) ($350)
    2 Schoeps CMC6 MK4 -OR- Sennheiser MKH 40 ($2500)
    AT 4047 ($400)
    AT 4033 ($400)
    Neumann M147 ($1800)
    Royer 121 ($1200)
    Beyer M160 ($600)

    and I'd spend the remaining few bucks on some accessories (boom arms, pop screens, etc.)
     
  7. keano

    keano Guest

    Thanks Joshua. I definitely have the AT 4047 on my list, and Cucco a few of those I have already and are also on my list.

    Reason I like the U47 is that the recordings is that alot of the artists I like vocally and style wise with a similar voice as mine use this. that got me interested. I initially without considering a U47 type mic wanted that big large up front sound. In your face. turns out this was it.
     
  8. Cucco

    Cucco Distinguished Member

    Bear in mind...the u47 will not get you a big, up front and in your face sound.

    Only a u47 in a good room through good pres with good head room with a good vocalist will get you that sound.

    Of course, if you have all of those other variables, a SM57 will get you a big, up front and in your face sound too.

    I guess my point is -

    It's fun to dream and have a wish list of expensive mics. However, it's also good to be realistic and realize that you can get EXACTLY the sound you're looking for with a $350 mic, a good preamp, a good room and proper gain staging.

    Cheers-

    J.
     
  9. keano

    keano Guest

    cucco fair enough good point. $350 is wonderful. what do you recommend for up front in your face large tone. SM7B?
     
  10. BobRogers

    BobRogers Well-Known Member

    Keano-

    If you have been reading recent posts you know that Jeremy has fallen hard for his new Bluebird. Time will tell whether this infatuation will deepen into a long lasting relationship or dash his hopes and leave him, older, wiser, but with a hint of bitterness. Say what you will about recording.org, we don't lack for drama.

    I'm definitely gonna check out the Bluebird though.
     
  11. TheFraz

    TheFraz Active Member

    I love the sm7b for a an upfront male voice. I thin it sounds the best on me when i am singing rock as well. with a 4040 being much better when i sing in a higher register, like jack white.

    the sm7 is hard to not make sound good. plus it works really well on amps.
     
  12. lesspaul

    lesspaul Guest

    Mic similar to U47

    Studio projects is a company that make great mics.
    They have one called C1, they say it performs just like the expensive u87,
    Read the reviews and you'll see.

    C1 is $299
    Neumman U87 is $ Just to much to post
     
  13. lesspaul

    lesspaul Guest

    My Mics

    I have just 4 mics in my Studio

    SM57
    Audiotechnia 40/33
    AKG C3000
    AKG u800

    For now I can get great sond thanks to my Preamp ART Pro
    I even mic my drum set and get a full STEREO IMAGE.

    All four for less than $1000
     
  14. VonRocK

    VonRocK Active Member

    Someone should call Les Paul and tell them that lesspaul has stolen his name and used it attract attention on this forum to guide people to his crappy website filled with content made by other people.

    Not to hijack this thread, but really, you are NOT Les Paul, and your website is filled with a whole bunch of other people's content.

    I really can't take your recommendations seriously when you've so obviously tried to dupe me twice in your only two posts here.

    And why would a drummer call himself lesspaul?


    Regards,
    more Ron
     
  15. elcubo

    elcubo Active Member

    ??????????? :roll: ?????????????
     
  16. Davedog

    Davedog Distinguished Member

    Re: Mic similar to U47

    First off,I'd like to appologize in advance for my comments here. Those of you who know me know that I always try to encourage all who post here to learn and gain knowledge from their questions and the answers that they get from these.

    This, however, is simply too much. Posting this kind of misinformation ESPECIALLY in budget forum is akin to telling a direct lie. Its unfortunate that there would be folks that would actually believe this garbage, but it is true that this happens.

    I also know that the good folks over at Studio Projects would never make such a claim. While their products are well-built and do a credible job, AND there may be some similarities in the frequency responses of the two mics mentioned, to baldly claim they are the same with OBVIOUSLY NO PERSONAL EXPERIENCE OF EITHER MIC BY THIS POSTER IS CRAP.

    Hey....I own an Ovtava MK 319. It sounds a LOT like my Neumann U87....there are, however, major differences which ,in critical listening, would reveal themselves to anyone with a decent set of ears.

    I owned a C1 and it was nothing like the Neumann other than it was a large diaphram condenser in cardioid pattern, ONE of such that the U87 operates in.

    So......what do we have here? An idiot? Perhaps a troll....most likely a troll. In fact a troll who is using the name of one of the true daddies of our business in vain.

    If you (mr les paul) had posted this as YOUR opinion that would be one thing, but to call on some phantom review is much too much.

    Having a link to your own site is enough to piss me off even more.

    You're a fraud and your life expectancy here at R.O. is in danger.

    Change your screen name, appologize and clerify your comments or you're gone.

    You come in my forum and I'll delete every word you write.
     
  17. lesspaul

    lesspaul Guest

    lesspaul

    Hello everyone, My name is William

    Well first I didn't mean to offend anyone with my posts.
    One thing is true, I put together my website recordingfreak, because I love recording music and playing with different gear.
    Les Paul is a living guitar leyend. He invented one the coolest guitars ever, well at least for me, The Gibson Les Paul.
    I got one when I was in high school and a couple of friens just started to call me like that.
    lesspaul2001 is my yahoo ID, It's been my email address since 2001.
    I am not a drummer but I have a home recording studio.
    I have a lot of gear like
    Protools digi002R, Mackie Universal control with 3 extenders, line 6 podxt live and bass, m-audio keboards, Roland drums and Tama Drums....... the list go on and on.

    So, I joined this forum because I was online and I thougth is was cool and interensting I DO NOT HAVE A C1 or U87, but I came across some reviews. I thougth is was allright to share. here is a link for example

    http://www.digitalprosound.com/2001/03_mar/reviews/studio-projects2.htm

    About my website?
    Is just a hobbie what I am doing is collectin information about different DAWS in one place. I use to have plenty bookmarks in my browser.
    Hopefully that information can be helpfull for some people.

    Well...

    I've been messing around with recording for the last 10 years.
    I am surely not a super engineer or producer, but I like this hobbie just too much.

    Sincerely

    William Rivera
    lesspaul2001@yahoo.com
     
  18. TVPostSound

    TVPostSound Guest

    Hmm, Les Paul didnt invent the Gibson Les Paul, Gibson designed it, and paid him for his name. Every guitar given to him by Gibson was heavily modified for his personal use.
    Les Paul does hold patents for mulitrack recording, and amplified musical instruments. He has never designed the Les Paul Model!! Just consulted.
    There is also an argument who invented the solid body guitar between Paul, Fender, and Rickenbacker!!!
     
  19. lesspaul

    lesspaul Guest

    Less Paul

    Ok...He didn't INVENTED but........
    Gibson and Les Paul designed the guitar.
    Hes was not only a guitar player. This article has some information.
    Thanks for the reply.

    http://blogcritics.org/archives/2002/08/22/194907.php

    (He also helped to design what would go on to be one of the most important instruments in rock and roll: the Gibson Les Paul electric guitar)

    William Rivera
    lesspaul2001@yahoo.com
     
  20. TVPostSound

    TVPostSound Guest

    Gibson already had built the guitar, they approached Les Paul to put his name on it. Les contributed finishing touches.
    This was in response to Leo Fender selling Telecasters (Solid body) As Gibson rejected Les Paul's idea of a solid body guitar years earlier.
    Years later Gibson changed the Les Paul guitar to what you know as the SG, and told them to take a hike. He stated that the point on the treble side got in the way of his playing.
    They cancelled his contract, even though SGs sold like hotcakes, the unlabelled Les Paul models didnt, they renewed his contract with the original style.

    Rumour has it that he was in the middle of a divorce, and wanted out of his (Gibson)contract so he could get another after the divorce.

    I'm not belittling Les Paul, he is mostly responsible for multitracking. I met the man over 25 years ago, I still look up to him.

    You want history, dont read it on the web, I've been around long enough!!!
     

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