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Which Tube Pre?

Discussion in 'Pro Audio Equipment' started by backinthelab, Mar 12, 2006.

  1. backinthelab

    backinthelab Guest

    Okay, I'm back again to ask for some more help. I'm looking to get a nice tube pre to use on an upcoming funk/soul project.

    I already own a Sebatron 4000e, maybe something to compliment this? Here's what I'm thinking:

    Manley Mono and a Mojave Audio MA200 mic
    Manley ELOP
    Millennia Media STT-1
    UA 1176 or UA 610 (I already have the 4110 so I'm leaning away from UA, but not completly opposed)

    OR...
    I know these aren't tube units, but I've heard great things about API:
    API lunchbox w/ two 512's to start
    API 3124

    I guess I'm looking to hear what you all think would be the best use of my money. I need more vintage sound and I'm always open to other suggestions.

    Thanks in advance for any help!
     
  2. chrispick

    chrispick Guest

    Maybe get the UA 6176 and kill two birds with one stone -- and save some rack space? That's a pretty old school sound.

    FWIW, having a tube in the chain isn't necessarily the be-all-end-all or the best solution for every situation. Plenty of old records were recorded using solid state gear.
     
  3. backinthelab

    backinthelab Guest

    Yes, I'm aware that it won't be the end-all-be-all. But it can be close! I'll take a look at the 6176. Thanks for the suggestions.
     
  4. The 6176, API 312's and Vintech Dual 72's (Neve 1272) are pretty good. I like them, anyway.
     
  5. fiddler59

    fiddler59 Active Member

    Hamptone HVTP2. 2 channels of all tube pre. I use the Seb. and the Hamptone. Love them both for different things.
    fiddler
     
  6. Oats

    Oats Guest

    how about the telefunken v72? i want one...
     
  7. backinthelab

    backinthelab Guest

    I think the 6176 is a good choice right now. Especially since I don't own a full channel strip, only pres. Maybe not, though, if I can get a good deal on a VoxBox or Mono...Why is this so difficult?!?!?
     
  8. chrispick

    chrispick Guest

    Well, the 6176 gives you the 610 pre and 1176 comp in one box -- and they can be used together or separately. I think it's a good bet.

    Try test-driving a unit, if you can. Some people find the 610 a little dark or murky for their tastes. That's what I like about it. Plus, I don't consider it murky myself.

    I've never heard anyone complain about the 1176 though. It's considered a staple.
     
  9. LJT

    LJT Guest

    I've got the Pendulum SPS-1 for Acoustic Guitar (handmade Jim Olson). The sound on this pre is second to none. Gregg Galtieri makes his pre's by hand. Check out the MDP-1 and do a little Googling: http://www.pendulumaudio.com/MDP-1.html

    They are a little on the high $$ end but as quiet and sweet as anything on the market methinks.

    Happy gear hunting.
     
  10. backinthelab

    backinthelab Guest

    I'm giving the 6176 a go. It should be here next week sometime, just in time to track some vox! I'll let you know how it sounds!
     
  11. sdelsolray

    sdelsolray Active Member

    I have both the Pendulum Audio SPS-1 and MDP-1a. I wouldn't go so far as saying the SPS-1 is "second to none." It's an excellent pre for studio micing, but it is really desinged for live use with acoustic guiar pickups/mics, hence all the "gigging" features in the unit. It's the total feature package that makes the SPS-1 what it is.

    The MDP-1a is another story. World class for sure.
     
  12. atlasproaudio

    atlasproaudio Active Member

    Pendulum and Millennia both make great sounding 'natural' voiced tube preamps. On the character side of things check out the Mercury M72 and M76, both are hand made in California and based on the Telefunken preamps, excellent stuff.
     
  13. LJT

    LJT Guest

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    I wouldn't go so far as saying the SPS-1 is "second to none." It's an excellent pre for studio micing, but it is really desinged for live use with acoustic guiar pickups/mics, hence all the "gigging" features in the unit. It's the total feature package that makes the SPS-1 what it is.

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    Excellent points! I should have qualified my post better. When I said second to none, I didn't mean as a mic pre. I meant as a universal setup for recording/amplifying six-string (steel) acoustic guitar exculsively. Amplifying/Recording acoustic guitar is so tough IMHO. The dynamic range of the instrument, and complex overtones are so difficult to catch. And most acoustics that have electronics are harsh and muddy in the 800-1khz range. The Baggs transducer with an SPS-1 in a good handmade like the Olsons gives me a good shot at a good sound (like David Wilcox, James Taylor, Patty Larkin). Quiet, smooth, true: http://www128.pair.com/loredo/olson/audio/jt_lesn.mp3
     
  14. backinthelab

    backinthelab Guest

    Thanks guys, excellent suggestions! I'll have some good reference next time I make another purchase.

    One thing that surprised me was that no one stuck with any Manley products. Any particular reason why?
     
  15. The pre on the Manley VoxBox that we have at the studio is too... something. I don't like it, in any case. The only thing we use the VoxBox for is the Pultec EQ on kick drum.
     

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