..don't we see more summing bus hardware? With all the people who bash PT's summing bus, I would figure more companies would have stepped up and made a simple 8/16/24 channel summing bus mixer. Nothing but pan, gain and a fader. Now I just don't count the Manley mixer. Come on...too expensive for what it is. Notsure I want the "Manley sound" on everything either. I have seen that speck has a new LiLo (line in line out) mixer that looks interesting. Their EQ is very nice, and their other mixer is supposed to be super clean. With the new PT lurking (sporting a better mix bus, 96k, and a big daddy price tag from the rumors) a good reasonably priced summing bus could really extend the life of our present systems.