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wiring inserts: tip send, ring return

Discussion in 'Recording' started by dac, Jun 22, 2004.

  1. dac

    dac Guest

    do i use a dual conductor cable to wire my inserts on my console: tip send, ring return...do i just attach each conductor to its own connector? if so, trs or ts on processor end? do i split the ground between both connectors? or do i need to wire it differently?
     
  2. djui5

    djui5 Guest

    Wiring inserts...

    Console insert end get's wired like this...

    TRS:
    Tip=send positive
    Ring=return positive
    Sleeve=neutral ground

    Dynamic unit end get's wired like this...

    Input:
    XLR/TRS
    Pin 2/Tip=input positive and is connected to tip of insert TRS
    Pin 1/Ring=input low and is connected to sleeve of insert TRS
    Pin 3/Sleeve=input ground and is connected to sleeve of instert TRS

    Output:
    XLR/TRS
    Pin 2/Tip=output positive and is connected to ring of insert TRS
    Pin 1/Ring=output low and is connected to sleeve of insert TRS
    Pin 3/Sleeve=output ground and is connected to sleeve of insert TRS

    Pin 3/Sleeve should be soldered to Pin1/ring on both input and output of dynamics unit
    IE: Pin 3/Sleeve on input is soldered to Pin1/ring on input and Pin 3/Sleeve on output is soldered to Pin 1/ring on output....this is called shorting to ground.


    So...if the dynamics has XLR input/outputs you'll wind up with a cable like this...

    TRS on one end and one male, one female XLR on the other end
    Tip of TRS connects to pin 2 of male
    Ring of TRS connects to pin 2 of female
    Sleeve of TRS connects to pin 1 of male and female
    Pin 3 of male and female get soldered to their respective pin 1's.
     
  3. mistals

    mistals Guest

    There are 2 cables that each have TS and both combine at 1 end(TRS)
    TRS connector is for the insert, where tip is +, and ground at sleave and for the TS end that will feed your outboard gear's input. The return TS gets + wired to ring on TRS & also grounds to sleave.
    If you connect to patchbay you can have better flexability.
     
  4. mistals

    mistals Guest

    Looks like djui5 got you covered!
     
  5. dac

    dac Guest

    thanks,
    can i just use a dual conductor cable for this connection? i'm just a little confused on the ground thing...how do i split the shield at the outboard end between two connectors?
     
  6. djui5

    djui5 Guest

    Start with 2 XLR cables......and chop the console end's off and wire them like I said to a single TRS plug...

    You could use 1 XLR cable and cut it in half if it would be long enough..it has a female and male connection...
     

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