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You have $10k.. what do you want?

Discussion in 'Recording' started by 6thstringer, May 3, 2005.

  1. 6thstringer

    6thstringer Guest

    This is more of a theoretical thing, since I don't exactly have ten grand to blow right now, but I was wondering where the seasoned veterans put their big bucks?
  2. John Stafford

    John Stafford Well-Known Member

    Oct 1, 2004
    I'd love to blow the lot on a Brauner VM-1 KHE, and with the change I might have enough left to buy a cheap DAT machine on ebay!

    John Stafford
  3. MistaG

    MistaG Guest

    If your room is less than 3500 SQ Ft. - Bass traps. Acoustic treatment. At least $1500 on this alone. Either that or find a good room.

    Gradual approach:
    Convertors and monitors next
    3 good and varied preamps
    Assuming you have a computer and software.

    All at once:
    A Yamaha 02R96V2

    For me personally, right now, 2 NEVE 1084s would be nice.
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  4. Sanity Inn

    Sanity Inn Guest

    here's a link to another thread with similar question

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  5. dpd

    dpd Active Member

    Sep 29, 2004
    can I buy talent?
  6. Davedog

    Davedog Distinguished Member

    Dec 10, 2001
    Pacific NW
    You CAN buy talent...10 large wont get you very much ...

    I personally would buy me a nice old Telecaster......oh wait.....you said ten thousand.....my bad.
  7. Randyman...

    Randyman... Well-Known Member

    Jun 1, 2003
    Houston, TX
    A downpayment on SOMEWHERE to put all this crap! :cry:
  8. heyman

    heyman Guest

    Pendulum Quartet 2 -Merc addition...

    then blow the rest on porn..
  9. o2x

    o2x Active Member

    Mar 17, 2005
    A guaranteed 25-1 winner in the 3:15 at Newmarket.
  10. JBsound

    JBsound Guest

    Neumann U47, Pendulum ES-8, Manley Massive Passive.

    I think I might have exceeded the budget though. I guess I better have already had a preamp.
  11. took-the-red-pill

    took-the-red-pill Active Member

    Jan 10, 2005
    Near Clagary
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    $5K on room improvements

    $5K to go hang out in a working studio with a good teacher to learn every thing I could before he decided it was time for me to go.

    Then again, you asked for the pros opinion, so I don't really qualify.

  12. I'd get 2 Apogee Rosetta 800s, Vintech Audio 473, and API 3124(or Millennia HV3 8 channel).

    Plenty of mics right now.(maybe I could use a Royer 122)
    I need better converters and more pres for sure.

    I'm tired of wasting my money on digital gear and software.
    I've learned the hard way that great analoge gear is far better than great digital gear.
    If I had 20K to invest I could get killer results!
    "sniff"....I don't though. :(
    Anyone know a rich person looking to get a tax break?
  13. Retaw

    Retaw Guest

    That'd get me a decent violin :D or a deposit on a good violin.
  14. Guelph_Guy

    Guelph_Guy Active Member

    Sep 2, 2013
    Ontario Canada
    I think I'd use it to build up a minimalist system...

    Room tuning for sure
    A set of Genelecs (my ear is used to them)
    Strange I'd buy a tascam UH7000 2 channel interface
    Push my focusrite liquid channels into sefvice via aes/ebu so I'd have some pre's with a variety of colors
    A new master keyboard
  15. DonnyThompson

    DonnyThompson Moderator (Distinguished Member) Resource Member

    Nov 25, 2012
    Akron/Cleveland, OH
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    The front end - the tracking chain - is of far more importance to me than anything that could be inserted or tapped into later.

    Mics are the most important thing. Having a really good pre and converters is also very important, but it all starts with the microphone(s).

    My recording style is different from many others here, though, in that I'm working primarily with solo artists and duo acts; so other than for real drums, I don't require anything more than 8 input channels at a time.

    After the mics, three very nice preamps of each style - super-clean SS high gain pre ( like a Millennia or Grace), a good single channel tube preamp, and then something with a transformer ( which I already have with the ADK), with which I can choose from a variety of XFO and OpAmp combo's to get different character. The, a high quality conversion system. Having the best mics and pre's in the world don't mean a thing if you are using a poor converter to get that sound into your digital work station. The chain will only sound as good as its weakest link.

    To that, an LA2 and an 1176.

    But I'm not gonna get anywhere close to all of that stuff with 10 G's... I could eat that up just in mics alone, so I won't even mention a Pultec rack.

    As an engineer who is passionate about sound, all of these things pop into my head pretty quick based on past experience with using a lot of the pieces mentioned.

    But as a businessman - especially THIS business - that ten grand would be much better served being put into a retirement fund or paying down current debt; because in this day and age of relying on a studio to make a living, the odds of recouping your investment on any of that gear are very, very low.

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  16. Kurt Foster

    Kurt Foster Distinguished Member

    Jul 2, 2002
    77 Sunset Lane.
    ... and being this thread is 11 years old, perhaps we should say $ 5000? (due to inflation).
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  17. Sean G

    Sean G Moderator Resource Member

    Jul 27, 2015
    Sydney, Australia
    Wouldn't 20K now get you what 10k would have 11 years ago???
  18. kmetal

    kmetal Kyle P. Gushue Resource Member

    Jul 21, 2009
    Boston, Massachusetts
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    An 8x8 Burl mothership, a dangerous 7.1 configured monitor controller. Lol $10k spent.

    I think $10k gets you about the same amount of audio gear as it did 10 years ago. Pre 2000's is a different price structure, although I'd have to excersise my finance degree to see the relative proportions.
  19. DonnyThompson

    DonnyThompson Moderator (Distinguished Member) Resource Member

    Nov 25, 2012
    Akron/Cleveland, OH
    Home Page:
    Well... It depends...

    That 10k now might be able to buy you more than it used to, even with inflation included.

    If we're talking "dream gear", then, no... you'd need a lot more now than you would have needed then.

    But in terms of home/mid level digital audio, a lot of the gear is much less expensive now. One of the reasons for this is that there are many more manufacturers in the game now than there used to be, and that increases competition between them - meaning they are all vying for our hard-earned dollars, as opposed to 25 years ago, when there were only a few companies that made the hardware necessary for digital audio production.

    As an example, 25 years ago, Presonus as a company didn't even exist yet, and Focusrite was still in the big dollar console and hardware processor market.

    The price spread between "fair" quality and "high" quality was much wider then, with nothing really in between. These days we have far more choices, and in a multitude of price ranges. The bare-bones "home" quality gear available in the $50 - $100 range today - the Samson, Behringer, Tascam range - would have cost upwards of 4 times that amount 20 years ago.

    You can now get very good sounding 8 channel USB/FW pre's/i-o's for around $40-$50 per channel. Presonus, Focusrite, A&H... all make i-o's and console/pre's of really nice fidelity, certainly very useable. While they're maybe not the quality of an Antelope, Grass Valley or Millennia, it's still very nice sounding gear, and at a fraction of the cost of what it would have been priced at back in the 90's.

    The other thing that drove prices higher in those days, was the proprietary market model. If you were using Pro Tools in 1995, you HAD to use Digidesign's hardware, or at least that's all that was supported. Now, there are so many hardware manufacturers for computer audio, that you have your choice, and you're not enslaved to having to buy one particular model in order for your DAW to recognize it, and that has brought the prices way down.

    I think you can get better quality conversion now for a lot cheaper than what it was priced at in the 90's, or even into the early 2000's... as I've heard told from colleagues of mine who dropped big money into those pricey stand alone converter systems 20 years ago - that these days, even the converters in entry level pre's/i-o's are just as good sounding as those big dollar systems from that time, and as we know, they are much cheaper.

    And, the boutique, ultra high quality converters from Antelope and such these days can be had for only a couple grand, yet, had these been available at that time, these same models would have been priced a LOT higher than they are now, which would have made them pretty much untouchable then to most people, unless you had the equipment budget of Ocean Way... LOL

    It seems that it's the analog gear that has skyrocketed in prices. True classic pieces - LA2's, 3's, all the various 1176 models, Focusrite Red Series, Pulse Technologies, Neve, SSL, API, and a slew of hi-quality knock - off clones that came about as the result of the invention of the 500 series rack system - those are the pieces that command the higher prices. Now, whether those prices are justifiable or not can only be determined by the user. There are some people who swear by that analog gear; they can't live without it, while others will claim that they can achieve the same sounds ITB. Obviously, the majority of people like the analog gear, and the only proof required to show that are the prices that these pieces command.
    And, while there are many older pieces that do sound wonderful, and do live up to their reputation(s); as has been mentioned before ( Kurt mentioned it just recently @Kurt Foster ) there's a BIG difference between classic/vintage and something that's just "old and used". ;)

  20. Kurt Foster

    Kurt Foster Distinguished Member

    Jul 2, 2002
    77 Sunset Lane.
    ..... if you had $ 10K 11 years ago, it will now buy what $ 5K would have bought then. i suppose we could be more "the glass is half full" and say we now have $ 20,000 .....lol.

    LA 3's were $2K a pair then, if you could find a buyer. now they're $4K.

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