- Uploaded wave files to dropbox so these posts are not accurate to the polll now.
They both sound the same
Welcome to our new forum, Track Talk.
I'll kick it off.
The piano isn't the best but the player makes up for it I have Sage, my 13 year old playing a few bars of Tarantella for us.
It is the exact same performance, just summed differently. Nice fast attacks for this comparison.
What track do you prefer?
NOTE: Don't read through this thread until you vote.
Last edited by bigtree; 03-10-2012 at 12:05 PM. Reason: used wave files and dropbox
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First time trying this Dropbox....so I'm having problems getting your .wav files.
Do I need to install and create an account (which I did) and then what.
If I click on the .wav files in your first post it gives me an error and no file?
Sorry for the newb question....LOL
shoot, its my first time too. I'll log off and see.
Cool well maybe I'm not the newb!...Haha
Got it, I had to make them public links. Thanks for not giving up, Don! I think this will prove to be interesting. Please try again
I guess having a Dropbox account isn't needed...I clicked on the link and they downloaded...quick and easy
So...were those stereo clips?
I imported them into Cubase 6 and split them to separate tracks and panned them L and R.
I guess I could have imported them to one stereo track though...right?
I put them one after the other SUM1 then SUM2 and looped them....
My meters indicated SUM1 quieter than SUM2.
I closed my eyes and lost track as to which one was which
And I liked SUM2 best....
I'm still using the ATH-M50's.
SUM2 was richer sounding, you can hear more of the room...
SUM1 was just a touch lighter, but then I don't know that could be the difference in the loudness.
Again very close....discerning ears I think would prefer SUM2....am I right?...LOL
So what is the difference in what you're doing....different summing equipment?
Oh BTW your son plays very well!
I think for me if you did something that was not as fast and crisp as a test, I would have an easier time hearing more detail.
The reason I say that is while it's a good piece it is hard to focus in on anything it's all attack and little or no sustain which would give your brain some time to register and process the sound and develop a feel for it.
With that type of piano sound, the thing you start hearing most is the tone of that piano.
Also wondered how you mic'd that and what the signal chain was....
Nicely done Don. Yes, two stereo clips.
Everyone should be able to import the stereo tracks without splitting them but either should still be fine as long as they are hard L&R. I'm new to this too. Trying to keep this as accurate as possible using two different summing system won't null perfect but I think its close enough for this test. I set the levels using a null test. Once they got as close to cancelling I left them there. There was only a slight amount left over.
I suppose its safe to say, set the level on the track louder to where you think its balanced. Do you still have the same opinion?
I will do another song later that will be much slower and involves more info. A fast attack piece is important IMO because the attacks are the first to show something important here.
I don't want to say much more until the end of this quiz.