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  1. 03-17-2012, 08:40 PM #1
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    Default Johns Track, I'll Be There - ITB vs OTB mix fest

    Hey!

    JohnTodd has a new album out and there are some great songs on it! He was kind enough to allow me to play with this track "I'll Be There" So below is the journey.

    Kudo's John!

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    PLEASE NOTE: I'm doing this to engage us all, not to prove I am some mixing god etc. However, I also have some nice equipment so I thought it would be right on if I could help him out by trying to make it a little better. In the process, what a great way to engage people by sharing what I'm doing and to also welcome advice from our members too. I want to see this new forum "Track Talk" grow so I'm diving in ya all, all in the name of learning and having fun.

    This is such a beautiful song, I think it would make a great mix contest. But for now, this thread is a continuation of more mix's

    The Tracks:

    There are 30 tracks. Only 1 stereo drum track, a few guitars, a few keys, and a lot of vocals.

    Enjoy!

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    Song completed, Who's Next?

    This thread is discussing mixing process with one of John's song. Its also part of the continued discussion I am preparing for with a Mix Contest ( not necessarily with this song).
    Most of the reference tracks in this thread have now been unfortunately removed to conserve Dropbox space, leaving way for future projects but my final mix prior to mastering is still online. I ended up using my own drum tracks and finished it off with a few analog goodies.

    Enjoy whats left of this discussion.
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  2. 03-17-2012, 08:49 PM #2
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    John,

    Do you have the snare and kick on separate tracks that I could get? Right now they are only in a stereo track with cymbals and hats included. If I could get them on their own tracks, and center them , ooh, so much better.
    I have the SPL Transient Designer on the buss.


    The acoustic in the beginning. I've pulled out some lower mids that had a boxy sound to them. It sits in the mix better but after listening more, I'm going to HPF a bit more so the bottom end isn't so heavy. The Bass guitar will like that more.


    Vocals are thick in the lower mids so I pulled that out best I could and also HPF.

    So far that's it. Still working on this intro.
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    No question which one is the OTB version.
    Even if I didn't know which was which....
    Everything just pops on that, very nice song!
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    Ya, Don, your right with me here. awesome.

    Okay, I've taken a bit more HPF on the acoustic.
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    Now a bit more on the electrics. stand by...
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    HPF a bit more on electrics,
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    yup, that is better.

    Still a slight low end in the vocal right when the bass hits it but its a trade off now. Leave it for now. I think we have a good start. Listen for a while now and think...

    thoughts?
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    I don't want to get nit picky because this isn't my song and it's sounding fabulous so far....but
    at :25-:26 seconds on the vocal there's a delay echo of Johns voice?
    and at :35-:36 seconds there is a tick/click sound hard left....
    Just tell me to shut up...if that's out of line....but I am having fun listening to this stuff..
    And I'm watching the Formula 1 2012 opener on the telly in HD from Australia so I have nothing better to do between the commercials!
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    Oh BTW when you get the new post email subscription, the DropBox link shows up right there in the email and you can open or save it without even coming into the thread!
    Pretty cool time saver.....Hehe
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    Shut up

    hehe, kidding...

    NOTED on edits! We'll keep track as we go and deal with them later. Your comments are welcome indeed!

    I added some echo, but it needs to be tweaked there .. later on that.
    I'll listen for the tick. There is a few shrill bell sounds from the cymbal, I wish I could remove it for sure. Might need spectral cleaning on that one.

    Don, you are having too much fun! Thanks for the tip on the emai and some pointers.

    I've tweaked a bit more, I'm really liking it now. Great song! Time to take a break after this and come back on it tomorrow. Thanks for listening. Later...
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