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Does anyone know how the marshal 2001 and 2003 compare to the RODE NT1? the frequency response looks flatter on the marshals (I can't afford to many mics, so somthing w/ and uncolored sound is preferable) but the RODE is a classic, and I havn't heard much about the marshals.

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harveygerst Sat, 04/07/2001 - 15:00

Originally posted by MattH5:
Does anyone know how the marshal 2001 and 2003 compare to the Rode NT1? the frequency response looks flatter on the marshals (I can't afford to many mics, so somthing w/ and uncolored sound is preferable) but the Rode is a classic, and I havn't heard much about the marshals.I haven't directly compared the Rode to the Marshalls, but the Rode NT1 initially suffered from QC inconsistencies. The 2003 is smoother sounding than the 2001, but your best bet is to still try to listen to all of them directly and judge which works best for you. You can't hold mics to the kind of tolerances that a frequency response graph shows. Even Neumanns will have some vatiations that will make them better for some voices and worse for others.

If this is gonna be your first condensor mic, be very careful to NOT confuse clarity and detail with a peaked top end response. It's the biggest mistake first-time condensor mic buyers make. I would (for most of the vocals I record) choose a Marshall V67G first, then the 2003, then either the NT1 or the 2001. But for vocals, the only mic rule that works 100% of the time is, "Ya never know."

anonymous Sat, 04/07/2001 - 23:07

I don't know if I would call the NT1 a "classic"

-mike

Originally posted by MattH5:
Does anyone know how the marshal 2001 and 2003 compare to the Rode NT1? the frequency response looks flatter on the marshals (I can't afford to many mics, so somthing w/ and uncolored sound is preferable) but the Rode is a classic, and I havn't heard much about the marshals.

:) :)

anonymous Sun, 04/08/2001 - 03:25

Saw this thread header and thought I'd chime in with a 2nd, and even 3rd on what Harvey said. The V67G is the best value in a mic that I've seen in the last 10-15 years.

I'm having trouble finding things that it doesn't work well on. We just finished an acoustic guitar/vocal album. The singer tried everything before starting. He chose the V67G.

Now I realize that doesn't tell you much without knowing what else was tried. Check this out: EL AM251, 414TLII, TLM170 and a TLM103. The caveat, as with any mic, is the pre amp. The only one we used was an EAR 824M.

I've also used the mic with MSP1 pres and it's a winner there, too.

Cheers,

TB :D

RNorman Sun, 04/08/2001 - 04:09

Originally posted by Tonebarge:
Saw this thread header and thought I'd chime in with a 2nd, and even 3rd on what Harvey said. The V67G is the best value in a mic that I've seen in the last 10-15 years.

TB :D

I'd certainly agree. I still haven't done a direct shootout between the V67 and my AT4050, but I can see the v67 in some circumstances winning out, particularly on some of the spiritual music I've been recording where the 4050 already turned in some excellent performances. However, as Harvey mentioned over on RAP, I haven't found it to be all that usable on very energetic R&R (if you can call today's music that). I don't believe it would have withstood the assault this young performer threw into the 4050. It will be interesting to try that, too.

Interestingly enough I just did a vocal harmony track for a cyber-friend in P-burg against his U87 harmony & lead vocals using the V67 and it held up it's end very well. The resultant sound merged nicely, whereas the first attempt using the 4050 (same chain) didn't. I've now used this mic on the front of kits, on acoustic uprights, on vocals, and on guitar amps all with good results. Excellent buy, and thanks for the tip on Filament, Tone. I like getting good products from a quality sales/service organization. You helped me out on two things in one suggestion.

anonymous Sun, 04/08/2001 - 18:00

I don't know if I would call the NT1 a "classic"

whatever, mike. you know what I meant

Holt :o